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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: jman123 on December 02, 2011, 07:04:10 PM
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What would be the extent of a SSPX split due to the possible Rome agreement?
Especially here in the USA?
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I believe that there will no agreement with Rome because they are to far apart.
And that Rome will never give up insisting that SSPX accept Vatican 2 in its
entirety.
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Whoever splits off will loose all the properties. That's why you only see small groups break off from the SSPX, they have nothing to loose.
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Contributors have been too careless with their money.
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Contributors have been too careless with their money.
That is always the case with all chapels. The shepherd has been struck, and the sheep scattered, all the scattered groups are not the Church, and no one should think that they will last forever.
Having come from a family that lost everything, country, home, all our money, I have never been one that thinks it was a good idea to build expensive chapels during this time. Someone can just come and take it, whether a parishioner, or a priest, or Rome. And the bigger and better the property, the more chance that someone will want it.
They can take the properties, but they can't take away your soul, that is where one has to build his fortress, which no one can take.
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I believe that there will no agreement with Rome because they are to far apart.
And that Rome will never give up insisting that SSPX accept Vatican 2 in its
entirety.
If they are too far apart then why are they taking sooo long in making a final decision? :scared2:
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+Williamson once said if it could happen to the Dominicans, Franciscans, Jesuits, etc... then it could happen to the SSPX.
Watch and pray.
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Contributors have been too careless with their money.
That is always the case with all chapels. The shepherd has been struck, and the sheep scattered, all the scattered groups are not the Church, and no one should think that they will last forever.
The Church has 2 signs of Her unity: The Pope and the Eucharist, which will endure until the end of time. Whoever splits off from either of these is no longer in the Church.
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Contributors have been too careless with their money.
That is always the case with all chapels. The shepherd has been struck, and the sheep scattered, all the scattered groups are not the Church, and no one should think that they will last forever.
The Church has 2 signs of Her unity: The Pope and the Eucharist, which will endure until the end of time. Whoever splits off from either of these is no longer in the Church.
How does one "split off" from the Holy Eucharist?
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I believe that there will no agreement with Rome because they are to far apart.
And that Rome will never give up insisting that SSPX accept Vatican 2 in its
entirety.
If they are too far apart then why are they taking sooo long in making a final decision? :scared2:
I am convinced that it will never happen. It's just a show that they are
doing something. Just an argument club that goes nowhere.
SSPX will never surrender, nor will the Vatican. Just an perpetual
stalemate.
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Contributors have been too careless with their money.
That is always the case with all chapels. The shepherd has been struck, and the sheep scattered, all the scattered groups are not the Church, and no one should think that they will last forever.
The Church has 2 signs of Her unity: The Pope and the Eucharist, which will endure until the end of time. Whoever splits off from either of these is no longer in the Church.
How does one "split off" from the Holy Eucharist?
Many Protestant sects continue to perform the communion rite without valid orders or believing in the Real Presence.
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13curae.htm
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Contributors have been too careless with their money.
That is always the case with all chapels. The shepherd has been struck, and the sheep scattered, all the scattered groups are not the Church, and no one should think that they will last forever.
Having come from a family that lost everything, country, home, all our money, I have never been one that thinks it was a good idea to build expensive chapels during this time. Someone can just come and take it, whether a parishioner, or a priest, or Rome. And the bigger and better the property, the more chance that someone will want it.
They can take the properties, but they can't take away your soul, that is where one has to build his fortress, which no one can take.
Very wise words.
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I believe that there will no agreement with Rome because they are to far apart.
And that Rome will never give up insisting that SSPX accept Vatican 2 in its
entirety.
If they are too far apart then why are they taking sooo long in making a final decision? :scared2:
I am convinced that it will never happen. It's just a show that they are
doing something. Just an argument club that goes nowhere.
SSPX will never surrender, nor will the Vatican. Just an perpetual
stalemate.
Then the SSPX is paying an unnecessary high price don't you think :fryingpan:
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Contributors have been too careless with their money.
That is always the case with all chapels. The shepherd has been struck, and the sheep scattered, all the scattered groups are not the Church, and no one should think that they will last forever.
The Church has 2 signs of Her unity: The Pope and the Eucharist, which will endure until the end of time. Whoever splits off from either of these is no longer in the Church.
How does one "split off" from the Holy Eucharist?
Many Protestant sects continue to perform the communion rite without valid orders or believing in the Real Presence.
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13curae.htm
If you can't read a short article refuting your views, why point me to an encyclical?
Have you read it? I have.
Protestants are split off from the Church through heresy. It is as a result of that and their invalid orders and rites that they have no valid Masses and therefore no valid Holy Eucharist.
You wrote: "The Church has 2 signs of Her unity: The Pope and the Eucharist, which will endure until the end of time. Whoever splits off from either of these is no longer in the Church."
Can you point us to Church teaching that says that?