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Offline jman123

Sspx prayer and fasting being ordered
« on: October 28, 2019, 09:47:55 PM »
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Sspx prayer and fasting being ordered
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2019, 10:04:06 PM »
Ok, so did Fr. Pagliarani call off his request for more doctrinal discussions (for which he announced Rome need not convert), or demand Rome convert to Tradition, or declare he no longer wants a deal with idolatrous, sodomite, modernist Rome?

No?

Well then this is all impotent bullshit designed to make you think the SSPX is still traditional!

Fr. Pagliarani: Want to convert me?

Declare to the world Francis (and his 5 predecessors) are heretics, and there is no way in hell you could subject your faithful to their influence.

After that, start unwinding at least the 101 changes in the SSPX mentioned in my book (a very abridged and incomplete compendium), and just maybe I can start to take you seriously again.

As you stand currently, the SSPX shows all the duplicity of a demonic possession, saying one thing to calm nerves, but always moving in the opposite direction.

This pretty speech was pre-approved in Rome.
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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Sspx prayer and fasting being ordered
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2019, 11:27:50 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 28, 2019, 10:04:06 PM
Ok, so did Fr. Pagliarani call off his request for more doctrinal discussions (for which he announced Rome need not convert), or demand Rome convert to Tradition, or declare he no longer wants a deal with idolatrous, sodomite, modernist Rome?

No?

Well then this is all impotent bullshit designed to make you think the SSPX is still traditional!

Fr. Pagliarani: Want to convert me?

Declare to the world Francis (and his 5 predecessors) are heretics, and there is no way in hell you could subject your faithful to their influence.

After that, start unwinding at least the 101 changes in the SSPX mentioned in my book (a very abridged and incomplete compendium), and just maybe I can start to take you seriously again.

As you stand currently, the SSPX shows all the duplicity of a demonic possession, saying one thing to calm nerves, but always moving in the opposite direction.

This pretty speech was pre-approved in Rome.
I continue to not understand this logically.  I mean I assume you did your research on the SSPX changing and everything, but I just don't get the logic of refusing to dialogue with the people we simultaneously say are our shepherds.

Like the logic here seems more Sedevacantist than R + R .  
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Offline Ekim

Re: Sspx prayer and fasting being ordered
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2019, 05:17:56 AM »
Good point Byz but think of it like this...you have an alcoholic in your family who you love very much.  You know they have a bottle of booze stashed in the closet and go to the bar every weekend.  Of course you love them and tell them they are on a dangerous trajectory.  However, you never tell them to get rid of the stashed booze and stay out of the bars because you know if you do they’ll tell you to mind your business and throw you out of the house.  However, it’s not enough to dialogue with them about the danger of alcohol abuse you must also tell them to throw out the booze and stay out of the bar no matter how angry they become.  

The SSPX use to tell the church they claim to love, in no uncertain terms, that they must STOP the heretical and sacrilegious behavior.  Now they dialogue because they don’t want to get the modernist upset.

This of course is a very elementary example but I think it makes the point.
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Offline klasG4e

Re: Sspx prayer and fasting being ordered
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2019, 05:24:42 AM »
A petition to have the SSPX Superior call not for another rosary crusade, but rather imprecatory -- turn or burn -- prayer for Francis?
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