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« on: September 05, 2014, 09:23:38 AM »
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  • Read this article and tell me what's wrong with it. I'll give the answer in a separate post:

    (CNN) -- Every 40 seconds someone in the world takes their own life, a global tally of more than 800,000 ѕυιcιdєs a year, according to a landmark United Nations report on the subject.
    The research found that ѕυιcιdє killed more people each year than conflicts and natural catastrophes, accounting for more than half of the world's 1.5 million violent deaths annually, աօʀʟd ɦɛaʟtɦ օʀɢaռiʐatɨօռ staff told reporters at its presentation in Geneva.
    The report, the U.N. agency's first on the subject, analyzed data on ѕυιcιdєs from 172 countries, and took a decade to compile.
     The people who answer ѕυιcιdє hotlines Gupta: Depression is a brain disease
    Setting a goal to cut national ѕυιcιdє rates by 10 percent by 2020, the organization said ѕυιcιdє was a major but preventable health problem that health authorities had failed to adequately address due to a number of complicated factors.
    Shrouded in taboo
    "This report is a call for action to address a large public health problem which has been shrouded in taboo for far too long," Dr. Margaret Chan, director-general of the WHO, said in a statement.
    While warning that data on national ѕυιcιdє rates was imperfect, with fewer than half the surveyed countries keeping accurate figures, the WHO said it used available data to produce estimates on ѕυιcιdє prevalence worldwide.
    The global rate was estimated at 11.4 per 100,000, with men almost twice as likely as women to take their own lives -- rising to as many as three times more male victims than female in some richer countries.
    On average, high-income countries had a slightly higher ѕυιcιdє rate -- 12.7 per 100,000 people -- than low- and middle-income nations, where the rate was 11.2.
    Highest rates
    The most ѕυιcιdє-prone countries were Guyana (44.2 per 100,000), followed by North Korea (38.5), South Korea (28.9), Sri Lanka (28.8), Lithuania (28.2), Suriname (27.8), Mozambique (27.4), Nepal and Tanzania (24.9 each) and Burundi (23.1).
    The report found ѕυιcιdє rates were highest globally among those aged 70 years and over, but highest among the young in some countries -- and was the second leading cause of death for 15-29 year-olds globally.
    Among the challenges in tackling ѕυιcιdє were intense media coverage when celebrities kill themselves, as witnessed in the recent death of U.S. comedian Robin Williams, which could glamorize the act and fuel ѕυιcιdє "contagion," the report stated.
    Most vulnerable
    Another factor was that ѕυιcιdє victims often came from marginalized groups and were difficult to access with interventions.
    The report stated that the most common methods of ѕυιcιdє globally were pesticide poisoning -- particularly in rural areas -- hanging and firearms. Evidence had shown that restricting access to these methods can could help reduce the number of deaths.
    Also vital to lowering the ѕυιcιdє rate was a commitment by governments to implement national action plans on ѕυιcιdє -- something only 28 countries currently had in place.
    "We know what works," said Dr. Shekhar Saxena, the WHO's mental health director. "Now is the time to act."
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    « Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 09:26:45 AM »
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  • Here's the answer:

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    The report stated that the most common methods of ѕυιcιdє globally were pesticide poisoning -- particularly in rural areas -- hanging and firearms. Evidence had shown that restricting access to these methods can could help reduce the number of deaths.


    This jumped out at me: "restricting access to these methods".
    Which methods exactly? Let's break it down:

    1. Pesticide poisoning
    2. Hanging
    3. Firearms

    They are obviously talking about guns, and guns alone. Pesticides? Every home improvement store in the nation sells these for killing critters in your lawn and/or garden. There is no way to "get them off the streets". And hanging? Need I even go there? How do you take away every belt, rope, bedsheet, and piece of clothing from every man, woman, and child in America? In short, it's impossible.

    So it's a thinly veiled propaganda piece putting forth another reason to take away all our guns. Something to tuck away in the back of our minds.
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    « Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 10:15:23 AM »
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  • A lot of people od on pills
    May God bless you and keep you

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    « Reply #3 on: September 05, 2014, 10:20:50 AM »
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  • It really is the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time.

    1. There are a MULTITUDE of ways to commit ѕυιcιdє -- impossible to prevent them all unless you lock someone in a padded room...

    2. Why not wonder WHY so many people want to off themselves? For example, maybe those Indian farmers have a legitimate problem, like being financially ruined by the Agri-business corporations? Not everything is a bizarre aberration that can be solved with a pill. When a man loses his farm, is $50,000 in debt, and has no hope of making a living, ѕυιcιdє becomes a very tempting option, unless one has the Catholic Faith to stop him.

    And even the Catholic Faith doesn't force all human problems and struggles to disappear -- I know of a young lady (a single mom) who killed herself several years ago. She went to our chapel. Very sad.
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    « Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 10:56:37 AM »
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  • "Also vital to lowering the ѕυιcιdє rate was a commitment by governments to implement national action plans on ѕυιcιdє -- something only 28 countries currently had in place. "

    Are these the same governments promoting ASSISTED ѕυιcιdє?
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    « Reply #5 on: September 05, 2014, 11:31:43 AM »
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  • The powers to be and the ruling elite has ways to silence their
    opposition in their quest in a one world government and a one
    world currency.  They can just make life miserable and full of
    never ending problems that ends up in losing everything to the
    banks, creditors, law suits, judgments, and people whom lie and
    lie all the time about you, your family, and anyone that associates
    with you. They get you fired from your job because they say you are
    a racist, and holding anti government views.
    We are living in a virtual hell on earth, and it is only going to get
    worse because the so-called good people (compromisers) say
    and do nothing and act it is all in your head if you complain.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 05, 2014, 12:30:19 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew (Sep 05, 2014, 10:23 am)
    Read this article and tell me what's wrong with it.
    [....]
    The people who answer ѕυιcιdє hotlines // Gupta: // Depression is a brain disease

    In addition to the political issues, there are editorial issues: What's wrong includes the line quoted immediately above, because there certainly seem(s) to be at least 1, if not 2, unmarked omission(s) from the text of the article, where I've placed red "//" character pairs: The transition from "ѕυιcιdє hotlines" to the partial name "Gupta" seems much too abrupt for them both to have been in the same original sentence.  And that name appears only once in the article as copied to CathInfo.  So I assume that it's missing at least a quote from someone named "Gupta", presented as an authority for asserting the profitable and politically correct psychiatric & psychological view that "depression is a brain disease".  Plus missing who-knows-how-much other text.

    It's unclear whether the omissions resulted from flaws in the article as published elsewhere, or foul-ups in copying it to CathInfo.  Matthew routinely omits the URLs of his external sources, so it's often more hassle than it's worth for other CathInfo readers to track them down (thus in this instance, more hassle than it's worth to identify the source of the flaws).  I have no idea what would motivate such a secretive habit in such an otherwise obviously meticulous man.

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    « Reply #7 on: September 05, 2014, 02:33:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew (Sep 05, 2014, 10:23 am)
    The global rate was estimated at 11.4 per 100,000, with men almost twice as likely as women to take their own lives--rising to as many as three times more male victims than female in some richer countries.

    Isn't it the men who are traditionally responsible for being either the breadwinners for a household, or developing the financial security necessary to qualify with a potential father-in-law as a future breadwinner?

    Quote from: Matthew (Sep 05, 2014, 10:23 am)
    On average, high-income countries had a slightly higher ѕυιcιdє rate--12.7 per 100,000 people--than low-and[-]middle-income nations, where the rate was 11.2.

    Isn't it the high-income countries in which workers--even in high-tech fields demanding a high degree of education--are significantly more likely to lose their jobs to offshoring or invited-immigrant replacement workers (most notoriously the U.S. H1b visas) from low-income countries?  Including those high-income jobs most directly derived from products created in the high-income countries, notably the U.S.A.?

    Despite what postWW-II generations were taught in public-school "civics" classes about the nobility of the representative republic(an) government of the U.S.A., cui bono?  Who is being served by modern federal government policy?  Is it its citizenry anymore (even native-born)?  Or is it the industrial lobbyists, whose practices & goals have a plainly predictably negative impact on the working or eager-to-work citizenry?

    Quote from: RomanCatholic1953 (Sep 05, 2014, 12:31 pm)
    We are living in a virtual hell on earth, and [...] it is all in your head if you complain.

    Absent compelling evidence of citizen opposition growing to a strength and ferocity that would force changes in government that're beneficial to the citizenry, "depression" can be entirely rational as an emotional response.

    Quote from: Matthew (Sep 05, 2014, 10:23 am)
    The report found ѕυιcιdє rates were highest globally among those aged 70 years and over, but highest among the young in some countries--and was the second leading cause of death for 15-29 year-olds globally.

    Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey (Sep 05, 2014, 11:15 am)
    A lot of people od o.d. on pills

    Indeed.  Or as prescribed consumers of pills as alleged remedies for alleged diseases, notably "autism", ADD or ADHD, U.S. teens shoot up U.S. school children.  It qualifies as news because that kind of deadly incident didn't happen in previous decades.  Noticing the obsessive focus of the mainstream media on the guns involved, a visitor from a distant galaxy might assume that guns were dangerous new inventions, introduced by the same generations of technologists that instroduced cell-phones and personal computers.  Of course, guns have been in the hands of rural North Americans since the time of the English colony at Jamestown (Virginia, est. 1607).  In fact, the gift of a gun to a teen in past decades was the secular rural analogue to the Sacrament of Confirmation.  So why didn't rural teens shoot up U.S. school children in past centuries, hmmm?

    Quote from: Matthew (Sep 05, 2014, 11:20 am)
    2. [....] Not everything is a bizarre aberration that can be solved with a pill.

    Indeed, but such a rejection is at odds with the modern psychiatric orientation toward pathologizing emotions, reactions, and behavior.

    Quote from: AlligatorDicax (Sep 05, 2014, 1:30 pm)
    [....] asserting the profitable and politically correct psychiatric & psychological view that "depression is a brain disease".

    If diseases elsewhere in the body can be remedied with pills, the Doctors of Psychiatry argue, why not "brain disease"?

    Ponder having a psychiatrist legally hook a 15-29 year-old on drugs: Decades of recurring income from a new patient, and the practical equivalent to a required lifetime subscription to pills, to be purchased for many decades, starting perhaps as young as age 15 !   Never mind that it's a permanently recurring required expense to the patient.  Instead, think of the profits for Big Pharma!   A psychiatrist shouldn't give even a fraction of a second of thought to how many jobs or other opportunities in life the new patient will be disqualified for by what will become the extensively docuмented de fact diagnosis "mental illness".

    Quote from: RomanCatholic1953 (Sep 05, 2014, 12:31 pm)
    The powers to that be and the ruling elite has ways to silence their opposition in their quest in a one world government and a one world currency. [....]

    Oh!  Never mind.


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    « Reply #8 on: September 07, 2014, 10:49:12 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
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    The report stated that the most common methods of ѕυιcιdє globally were pesticide poisoning -- particularly in rural areas -- hanging and firearms. Evidence had shown that restricting access to these methods can could help reduce the number of deaths.


    This jumped out at me: "restricting access to these methods".
    Which methods exactly? Let's break it down:

    1. Pesticide poisoning
    2. Hanging
    3. Firearms

    They are obviously talking about guns, and guns alone. Pesticides? Every home improvement store in the nation sells these for killing critters in your lawn and/or garden. There is no way to "get them off the streets". And hanging? Need I even go there? How do you take away every belt, rope, bedsheet, and piece of clothing from every man, woman, and child in America? In short, it's impossible.

    So it's a thinly veiled propaganda piece putting forth another reason to take away all our guns. Something to tuck away in the back of our minds.


    The 'pesticide' used by 'Big Farmer' have just one chemical removed from that which formed "Agent Orange" This is what they spray on our crops and harm the soil with.

    Agent Orange had hideous ongoing affects on those who sprayed/handled/breathed it - soldiers/airmen from Vietnam war don't even have to prove neurological damage, they are paid out immediately with disability benefits!

    Farmers in France have launched a multi - Billion Euro lawsuit against Monsanto for not labelling the neuro-logical damage done by this chemical spray mix (the real cause of birds/insects/wildlife disappearing)

    This has medically damaged and killed a stack load of Farmers in France/elsewhere.
    Loss of knowledge of crop growing = loss of farmers.

    Brussels restricts farmers (tricks) by only letting them grow a few selective seed of each type or they don't get their yearly Communist-Socialist subsidy 'grant' (non-diversity will equal deliberate famines, while the occultist devil-marxists spout 'diversity' in social culture)
    Farmers are directly under the evil spells spouted from Brussels!