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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: Spelling Challenge
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2018, 12:21:35 PM »
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    But in your list of examples every "none" means zero, and not 2, 3, 4, and so on.
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    Not necessarily.
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    There could have been 2, 3, 4, or so on, of the cans suspected of being dented, but "None of the cans on the shelf are dented."
    There could have been 2, 3, 4 or so on, used cars suspected of being for sale, but "None of these used cars are for sale."
    And there most DEFINITELY could have been 2, 3, 4 or so on, of uninteresting radio commercials.
       Whereby, "None of these radio commercials are interesting."
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    How many molecules of water in your drinking glass contain deuterium? (There could be one, two, three, four,... or four thousand...)
       None of these molecules contain deuterium.
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    So it boils down to the context, and whether it is possible or implied that plural entities are the object of the quantity, "none."
    .--. .-.-.- ... .-.-.- ..-. --- .-. - .... . -.- .. -. --. -.. --- -- --..-- - .... . .--. --- .-- . .-. .- -. -.. -....- -....- .--- ..- ... - -.- .. -.. -.. .. -. --. .-.-.

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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #46 on: December 15, 2018, 02:31:46 PM »
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  • You said you had no power, (therefore no power bills) -- that implies no electrical appliances, since it was referring to no phone lines or Internet.
    Correct, we had no electrical appliances.

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    If you had a generator or solar power and an electric washing machine, you could easily (?) have had Internet via satellite ISP, too.
        Then you could have Amazon, e-mail, pizza delivery by drone, even Blue Apron for dinner, and a blender for smoothies!
        So much for rustic cabin life.
        Using Skype, you could then have a virtual telephone as well, without hard line hookups.
        But you said "without phone lines or Internet" describes where you lived in North Queensland.
    No electric appliances means no electric washing machine.
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    My husband purchased a generator to help him build our home, but I never used it. It was purely for the stated purpose.
    We had one small solar panel which allowed us to use 2 hours of power from one fluorescent light for about two hours at night.
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    We knew nothing about Skype, Amazon, e-mail, pizza delivery by drone, even Blue Apron for dinner or internet; still know nothing about Blue Apron for dinner.
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    We never had much delivered, I can assure you. My husband even made his own cement bricks. Yes, we had the cement delivered with some difficulty. As I said, we drove through the river, not over it, so we were cut off for some time every wet season.
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    One day we were amazed to see four men dressed to the nines approaching our home. They came to ask if we would like to have the phone connected. At first we said, No, thank you. But our neighbour had asked for it and if we joined in it would be more economical. We decided to get it. Telecom (I think it was at the time) had to bring the lines several kilometres and dig under the river bed. I think it cost us about $140 because we had previously been connected in NSW.
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    In case you are wondering, our water came by water wheel which my husband had built by an engineer, and water was heated by running black polypipe above ground from a dam my husband built at the top of the hill.

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    So much for rustic cabin life.
    Is that rustic enough? A friend is amazed that we were able to homeschool successfully without internet! Many people lack imagination, not to mention history and how the other half lives.



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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #47 on: December 15, 2018, 04:14:22 PM »
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  • Correct, we had no electrical appliances.
    No electric appliances means no electric washing machine.
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    My husband purchased a generator to help him build our home, but I never used it. It was purely for the stated purpose.
    We had one small solar panel which allowed us to use 2 hours of power from one fluorescent light for about two hours at night.
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    We knew nothing about Skype, Amazon, e-mail, pizza delivery by drone, even Blue Apron for dinner or internet; still know nothing about Blue Apron for dinner.
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    We never had much delivered, I can assure you. My husband even made his own cement bricks. Yes, we had the cement delivered with some difficulty. As I said, we drove through the river, not over it, so we were cut off for some time every wet season.
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    One day we were amazed to see four men dressed to the nines approaching our home. They came to ask if we would like to have the phone connected. At first we said, No, thank you. But our neighbour had asked for it and if we joined in it would be more economical. We decided to get it. Telecom (I think it was at the time) had to bring the lines several kilometres and dig under the river bed. I think it cost us about $140 because we had previously been connected in NSW.
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    In case you are wondering, our water came by water wheel which my husband had built by an engineer, and water was heated by running black polypipe above ground from a dam my husband built at the top of the hill.
    Is that rustic enough? A friend is amazed that we were able to homeschool successfully without internet! Many people lack imagination, not to mention history and how the other half lives.
    Blue apron is a rip off dinner delivery service.  Over priced ingredients to name your own dinner brought to your door.
    Nadir, I can’t seem to find where you stayed you lived? You seem like an awesome example to all us wives :) 

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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #48 on: December 15, 2018, 04:47:16 PM »
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  • Nadir, I so enjoy it when you share your bush experiences.

    Some of the things you describe are what my husband is interested in and has dabbled with. We've not depended on it as a way of life though.
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
    ~James 1:27

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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #49 on: December 15, 2018, 04:58:52 PM »
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  • Blue apron is a rip off dinner delivery service.  Over priced ingredients to name your own dinner brought to your door.
    Nadir, I can’t seem to find where you stayed you lived? You seem like an awesome example to all us wives :)
    We lived on the Walsh River close to its source up in the Great Dividing Range at the back of Atherton in Far North Queensland and 15 kms from
    Herberton.
    I had to learn submission to my husband.   :o
    Nevertheless, it was a wonderful 14 year retreat. :incense:  

    See http//www.aussietowns.com.au/herberton-qld



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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #50 on: December 15, 2018, 05:07:30 PM »
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  • Nadir, I so enjoy it when you share your bush experiences.

    Some of the things you describe are what my husband is interested in and has dabbled with. We've not depended on it as a way of life though.
    I was hoping you were at least lurking, Jen. 

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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #51 on: December 15, 2018, 05:22:33 PM »
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  • We lived on the Walsh River close to its source up in the Great Dividing Range at the back of Atherton in Far North Queensland and 15 kms from
    Herberton.
    I had to learn submission to my husband.   :o
    Nevertheless, it was a wonderful 14 year retreat. :incense:  

    See http//www.aussietowns.com.au/herberton-qld
    I’m not sure if you have, but a post about your whole experience. Including learning on how to be a holy submissive wife would be fascinating:)  I love stories like these!

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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #52 on: December 15, 2018, 06:17:39 PM »
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  • My husband's says the first step is to eat, almost exclusively, Italian food!  :ready-to-eat:
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    Seriously though, both topics - learning submission and  life experiences - would take a lot of time, though I do enjoy both writing and reading them. I already edited four of my husband's books on the latter. I will consider your suggestion, VW3.


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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #53 on: December 15, 2018, 08:35:01 PM »
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  • I’m covered in the Italian food department! 


    I think you’re very inspirational, Nadir! Reading anything you put out would be a learning experience.

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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #54 on: December 15, 2018, 09:15:14 PM »
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  • Just going through some old posts I found:

    on: September 03, 2012, 08:16:28 PM »

    Sorry to interrupt! I'm not changing the topic but just wanted to say when to use it's.

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    reject it's existence. The Church itself has changed it's view



    When you proofread say it is for it's and see if it makes sense; if not it's its
    The apostrophe represents an "i" in "it's"

    Say: "reject it is existence. The Church itself has changed it is view."   Uh uh! that doesn't sound right.  So it's 

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    reject its existence. The Church itself has changed it view


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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #55 on: December 15, 2018, 11:54:50 PM »
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  • The last line should read:
    Reject its existence. The Church itself has changed its view.


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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #56 on: December 18, 2018, 02:45:02 PM »
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    And it's not just me, any descent astronomer can do the same -- disprove Geocentrism.


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    And decent ones too?

    Descent - accent on second syllable - the act, process, or fact of moving from a higher to a lower position.

    Decent - accent on the first syllable - conforming to the recognized standard of propriety, good taste, modesty, respectable; worthy; adequate; fair; proper.

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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #57 on: December 19, 2018, 03:16:23 PM »
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  • One of my pet peeves: Someone saying, "My thoughts and prayers go to you and your family during this difficult time." Really? You're offering your prayers to earthly creatures, not to God? Ugh!
    "Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X

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    Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #58 on: December 20, 2018, 09:40:00 PM »
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    Haven't you ever typed the wrong word which happens to sound like the word you meant? It's like my fingers heard what I said in my head, and picked the wrong word.
    This quote refers to a comment on the misspelling of the words, then and than, interchanging one for the other, which I have noticed appears frequently here. In this case I think it may have been simply a typo, and not a confusion about the proper spelling. But the comment is an interesting one, in that the implication is that than and then sound alike. I have even seen a claim on one of these (American) spelling websites that these words sound alike which, in my mind, I immediately rejected.

    Where I come from these words sound distinctly different, so I am wondering:

    is it general in U.S. English that they sound alike,
    or is it only that way in certain American accents or certain states,
    or is it just sloppy speech that sets the trap?

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    Misled by prepositional phrases/Re: Spelling Challenge
    « Reply #59 on: December 23, 2018, 07:23:47 PM »
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  • Therefore, according to your principle, the following are properly rendered with the singular verb, "is":
    • None of the US presidents is women a woman. (in lieu of "None ... are women.")
    • None of Alaska's earthquakes since 1964 is so strong as this one. (in lieu of "None ... are so strong...")
    • None of my socks is lost in the dryer. (in lieu of "None ... are lost...")
    • None of the stars in the sky is brighter than the moon.
    • None of the cans on the shelf is dented.
    • None of these used cars is for sale.
    • None of the police officers is out of uniform, sir.
    • None of the ships at sea is sinking.
    • None of the people using the Internet is sleeping.
    • None of the hairs on your head is gray.
    • None of our Christmas trees is dry.
    • None of these houses is available.
    • None of these sentences is correct.
    • None of these dog's fleas is immune.
    • None of these radio commercials is interesting.

    They are indeed properly rendered with the singular verb "is".

    It's the subject of a clause that properly determines the number (i.e., singular or plural form) of the verb.

    But in the examples above, it's the noun objects of the prepositions "of" in subject phrases that seem consistently to tempt writers into the common errors being debated.  I assume that the errors arose in previous examples because those objects are often nearer to the verbs than are the subjects.  It's a rule that requires extra alertness from me to avoid violating it myself.

     

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