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Offline Devekut

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Place your entire life in Gods hands?
« on: October 28, 2014, 12:59:01 PM »
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  • Is this a protestant thing? I hear protestants constantly talking about "God is my provider. I will be able to continue my business because God provides" "Is your God big enough to support you emotionally and physically? Mine is". I mean, it is one thing to place your trust and faith in the Lord but to believe God will "provide" for you specifically? I never learned that as a Catholic but the Old Testament sort of supports this. Noah had faith and relied solely on God and he survived the flood. Abraham was going to kill his son and then got everything he wanted. But then again the Jews complained and got heavenly bread.

    So, is there a difference between the people of the Old Testament being provided for by God and the "God will pay my rent" protestants of the revamped New Teatament?

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    « Reply #1 on: October 28, 2014, 02:53:16 PM »
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  • Quote from: Devekut
    Is this a protestant thing? I hear protestants constantly talking about "God is my provider. I will be able to continue my business because God provides" "Is your God big enough to support you emotionally and physically? Mine is". I mean, it is one thing to place your trust and faith in the Lord but to believe God will "provide" for you specifically? I never learned that as a Catholic but the Old Testament sort of supports this. Noah had faith and relied solely on God and he survived the flood. Abraham was going to kill his son and then got everything he wanted. But then again the Jews complained and got heavenly bread.

    So, is there a difference between the people of the Old Testament being provided for by God and the "God will pay my rent" protestants of the revamped New Teatament?


    Protestants believe all their sins have been paid for (past, present, and future). As long as they believe Jesus died for their sins they do not have to reform their lives. They try to reform The Church to rid themselves of the guilt.
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."


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    « Reply #2 on: October 28, 2014, 03:32:58 PM »
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  • Is that why they're so certain God will give them everything that they feel they deserve? As a Catholic I always assumed God provided us with the grace and knowledge to attempt to achieve our goals (rent money, food, and so on) but I never once considered the possibility of heavenly dough (bread or cash) falling from the sky and landing at my feet like protestants seem to expect.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 28, 2014, 09:16:21 PM »
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  • As a Roman Catholic, of course you should believe that "God is my Provider".  He is and ever will be. He provides your life, your family, your friends, and your world, whether or not you gain physical or spiritual comfort in this life, etc.   The difference between Catholic Faith in Salvation from the on-going protestant heresy, is that Salvation, according to Catholicism, is an ongoing journey - full of temptations, sins, PENANCE and blessings - but a journey none the less.  Our "end of Journey" (i.e.: Salvation) relies on our obedience and fortitude ("Works") of what the Church teaches and demands during the life God grants us here on Earth.  The heretical thinking of "I have a one way ticket to heaven" due to just an emotional "urge" that I think I've been saved is just that…a heretical thinking and delusion.  Catholics earn their Salvation from  the trials and blessings of this life...protestants just think (and blink -  like the Jeannie comedy in the 1960's) they are saved.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 10, 2014, 02:31:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: Emitte Lucem Tuam
    As a Roman Catholic, of course you should believe that "God is my Provider".  He is and ever will be. He provides your life, your family, your friends, and your world, whether or not you gain physical or spiritual comfort in this life, etc.   The difference between Catholic Faith in Salvation from the on-going protestant heresy, is that Salvation, according to Catholicism, is an ongoing journey - full of temptations, sins, PENANCE and blessings - but a journey none the less.  Our "end of Journey" (i.e.: Salvation) relies on our obedience and fortitude ("Works") of what the Church teaches and demands during the life God grants us here on Earth.  The heretical thinking of "I have a one way ticket to heaven" due to just an emotional "urge" that I think I've been saved is just that…a heretical thinking and delusion.  Catholics earn their Salvation from  the trials and blessings of this life...protestants just think (and blink -  like the Jeannie comedy in the 1960's) they are saved.


    I so much agree with this. want to add to this that God is our provider because He is the Father, it is like a father providing for his child. God even loves us more then that so out of his love to us he provides. Nobody should doubt that. Everyone believes in their way that they are right, the protestants believe that they are right just as we believe that we are right ( I know that we are right ;)) there is a difference in thinking you are right and knowing and proving that you are right. anyway, personally I believe that in heart and mind you believe in our Lord then you do not need to doubt Him and know that He will give anything that you ask for ( in prayer) !


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    « Reply #5 on: November 10, 2014, 03:08:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: St. Albertus Magnus, Doctor of the Church, "On Cleaving to God"
    I have had the idea of writing something for myself on and about the state of complete and full abstraction from everything and of cleaving freely, confidently, nakedly and firmly to God alone . . .


    Quote from: St. Albertus Magnus, Doctor of the Church, "On Cleaving to God"
    Certainly, anyone who desires and aims to arrive at and remain in such a state must needs above all have eyes and senses closed and not be inwardly involved or worried about anything, nor concerned or occupied with anything, but should completely reject all such things as irrelevant, harmful and dangerous. Then he should withdraw himself totally within himself and not pay any attention to any object entering the mind except Jesus Christ, the wounded one, alone, and so he should turn his attention with care and determination through him into him - that is, through the man into God, through the wounds of his humanity into the inmost reality of his divinity. Here he can commit himself and all that he has, individually and as a whole, promptly, securely and without discussion, to God’s unwearying providence, in accordance with the words of Peter, cast all your care upon him (1 Peter 5.7), who can do everything. And again, In nothing be anxious (Philippians 4.6), or what is more, Cast your burden upon the Lord, and he will sustain you. (Psalm 55.22) Or again, It is good for me to hold fast to God, (Ps. 73.28) and I have always set up God before me. (Psalm 16.8) The bride too in the Song of Songs says, I have found him whom my soul loves, (Canticle 3.4) and again, All good things came to me along with her. (Wisdom 7.11)


    Quote from: St. Albertus Magnus, Doctor of the Church, "On Cleaving to God"
    So the supreme perfection of man in this life is to be so united to God that all his soul with all its faculties and powers are so gathered into the Lord God that he becomes one spirit with him, and remembers nothing except God, is aware of and recognises nothing but God, but with all his desires unified by the joy of love, he rests contentedly in the enjoyment of his Maker alone.


    Quote from: St. Albertus Magnus, Doctor of the Church, "On Cleaving to God"
    So commit yourself confidently and without hesitation, all that you are, and everything else, individually and in general, to the unfailing and totally reliable providence of God, in silence and in peace, and he will fight for you. He will liberate you and comfort you more fully, more effectively and more satisfactorily than if you were to dream about it all the time, day and night, and were to cast around frantically all over the place with the futile and confused thoughts of your mind in bondage, nor will you wear out your mind and body, wasting your time, and stupidly and pointlessly exhausting your strength. So accept everything, separately and in general, wherever it comes from and whatever its origin, in silence and peace, and with an equal mind, as coming to you from a father’s hand and his divine providence.


    http://www.ccel.org/ccel/albert/cleaving

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    « Reply #6 on: November 10, 2014, 03:37:46 PM »
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  • Thanks McFiggly for the great excerpts from "On Cleaving to God" by St. Albert the Great.



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    « Reply #7 on: November 10, 2014, 06:01:16 PM »
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  • No problem. It's a short work. It resembles the works of St. John of the Cross; It's like a very concise Ascent of Mt. Carmel from what I can gather.


     

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