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Offline parentsfortruth

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« on: September 24, 2013, 11:33:38 AM »
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  • Only going to give you an exerpt here, because the rest of this might nauseate you. But this part gave me a good laugh... something rare and much needed around here.

    http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/2564/church_fathers_and_church_music.aspx#.UkG9ixB3XFM


    Church Fathers and Church Music
    September 12, 2013

    The Fathers of the Church can help us refine our liturgical worship after 50 years of subjection to sentimental pop music.

    Christopher B. Warner

     At the beginning of this 50th anniversary year of Vatican II, Benedict XVI called for a renewed, authentic reading and implementation of the council docuмents. After suffering through many decades of vulgar, saccharine Church music, it is encouraging to note a rise of musicians who are serious about authentic reform of sacred worship. The recent Sacred Liturgy Conference in Rome was a great success, and there is a spirit of joyful, liturgical rejuvenation among the youth. Today’s composers are considering many facets of sacred music theory and history as they strive for the renewal of theocentric orthodoxy in liturgical worship. A brief look at the last 50 years in light of the early Church Fathers’ teachings provides a surprisingly relevant breath of fresh air.

    Most Catholics are all too familiar with the folk music “reforms” to liturgical music of the 1970s and ’80s. Adopting secular music and the spirit of the age, untutored youth began setting music to pop-style rhythms and melodies, usually with acoustic guitar accompaniment. This style of liturgical music became immensely popular, spread rapidly, and was taken up by prolific composers such as Marty Haugen and David Haas. Michael Matheson Miller of the Acton Institute refers to this liturgical Candyland as the “suburban rite.” The problem with this music, noted by more than one critic, is that it is filled with fuzzy doctrine and the spirit of the sɛҳuąƖ revolution: “peace,” “love,” and bad style.

    On the other hand, many remember the Grammy-award winning CD Chant, which hit the music market in 1994 and became an overnight sensation. Chant, sung by the Benedictine monks of Santo Domingo de Silos, appealed to traditional Christians and New-Age listeners alike. It was considered the perfect antidote to a stressful, workaholic world exacerbated by paltry pop music. The perennial qualities of plainchant became self-evident to the listener of these recordings. But for the monks, plainchant was more than a musical expression that they appreciated and polished like curators of a museum; it was essential to their life of prayer. The monks explained in the Jєωel-case insert for Chant how they had become physically ill, suffering fatigue and exhaustion, while experimenting with post-Vatican II music for the Divine Office. The sentimental emotion of pop and folk melodies was not sustainable over a seven-hour worship day.


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    Actually becoming physically sick from singing VII music. If that's not a sign, I don't know what is.
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    Something funny and positive
    « Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 01:04:13 PM »
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  • For a sample of truly awful V2 music, parodied, please have a listen:



    Just dont drink anything while listening, lest thee spray your computer and keyboard with what you are attempting to imbibe... :smile:
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster


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    « Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 01:08:53 PM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    Actually becoming physically sick from singing VII music. If that's not a sign, I don't know what is.


    Back in our NO days, my family and I were attending the NOM when they struck up the band (literally) for the recessional hymn. It was absolutely awful. Our youngest son, who was just a toddler, covered his ears and started shaking his head from side to side. Children are so perceptive.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 01:59:10 PM »
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  • I've been a guitarist for nearly 25 years.

    I have RARELY met a guitar player in a "church" setting who could accurately and reverently play accompaniments to hymns, especially on their electric guitars, with all their whang-boxes and fuzz-o-matic thingys and who knows what other contraptions connected.

    The FACT is that outside of classical music, any time you have instruments like the guitar present in so-called "worship" music, the LYRICAL content always DEVOLVES and sinks to the populist level of the amateurish strumming of the players.

    Banal, sentimental and wishful/emotional lyrical content is ALWAYS married to junior-high-school-garage-band flailing and cacophony.

    As I have gotten deeper into the Faith in my theological and devotional understandings, I have grown less and less enamored of playing the guitar. I still play from time to time, but I restrict my playing to the accompaniment of hymns or lyrically-conservative devotional songs.

    Also notice that the majority of "worship music" in the post-Vat-II era is as concerned, if not more concerned, with "arrangements" and instrumental passages as it is with the centrality of VOCAL EXPRESSION of the truths of the Faith.

    In other words, there are plenty of opportunities to "clap along" and listen to boring instrumental "whomp, whomp, strum strum" nonsense.

    90% or better of so-called modern "worship music", which is individualistic, private-interpretation Protestant lyrically, is unsuitable for a capella singing in groups.

    As such, it is deficient in its ability to transcend culture and transcend musical fads.

    I will be grateful to no end when the return of the Church to Her visible and triumphant glory brings with it a return to the powerful and triumphant musical and lyrical proclamations of the glory of the Triune God in and through His Holy Church.
    This evil of heresy spreads itself. The doctrines of godliness are overturned; the rules of the Church are in confusion; the ambition of the unprincipled seizes upon places of authority; and the chief seat [the Papacy] is now openly proposed as a rewar

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    Something funny and positive
    « Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 02:42:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: Kazimierz
    For a sample of truly awful V2 music, parodied, please have a listen:



    Just dont drink anything while listening, lest thee spray your computer and keyboard with what you are attempting to imbibe... :smile:


    Love this:
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    « Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 03:28:19 PM »
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  •  :roll-laugh1:Kazimierz, that was truly repulsive!  I'd rather listen to Bp. W imitate a woman singing The Sound  of Music.  H.E. is much better!
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #6 on: September 24, 2013, 07:00:05 PM »
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  • Indeed. His Excellency can be the proverbial hoot.

    Bad music is ripe for the plundering.
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster