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Some Mestizos believe that the Southwestern US belongs to Mexico
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 06:04:50 AM »
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  • Well it just about does now.


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    « Reply #2 on: April 07, 2013, 07:35:35 AM »
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    Well it just about does now.


    Thanks to the cowardice and betrayal of politicians and the stupidity of the American voter, America is becoming Brazil in only 7 years from now!

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    « Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 07:54:17 AM »
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  • http://www.herald.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/hard-times-when-the-partys-over-28008635.html
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    PAT STACEY – 21 MAY 2012 10:05 AM

    You don't always have to shout loud to make your point.

    For the last few Fridays, Kim and Ross Bartley's fine series The New Irish: After the Bust has been quietly and unassumingly piecing together a picture of post-Celtic Tiger Ireland more compelling and poignant than any of the bigger, noisier docuмentaries we've seen on the subject in the last couple of years.

    This week's instalment took us to Galway town of Gort, which had been labelled "little Brazil" because of the number of Brazilian immigrants who'd flooded there to work in the meat factory, swelling the population from 1,700 to 3,400 in just four years.

    With the factory closed since 2007, there are fewer than 800 Brazilians left in Gort.

    That figure will probably have shrunk by the time you read this, as more opt to go back to Brazil or move to another country to become the New Something Else.

    Duda, a welder, hasn't worked steadily in 10 months.

    A married father of two, whose wife is lucky enough to have a job, he's put down roots here he doesn't want to pull up. "I love Ireland, I want to stay here for the rest of my life," he said.

    Improbably, that love extends even to the Irish weather.

    But with work virtually impossible to come by, he's been forced to go to London, commuting home when he can to grab a few days with his family.

    When he failed to get paid for a job he'd done, he was back in Gort and back signing on.

    "I don't want to stay on the dole," he said, "I want to work, to get my own money." At the end of the film, we were informed that Duda was trying his luck in Britain again.

    Bruno and Eduardo were known locally as "the party boys" because they'd organise Brazilian parties in a local pub.

    They don't do that so much anymore.

    Bruno, a plasterer, was struggling to pick up a few days' work here and there, usually by joining a group of other Brazilian men in Gort's main street every morning in the hope a local businessmen or farmer might need some casual labour.

    Midway through the programme, he decided to go back to Brazil.

    It was an emotional wrench for Eduardo, who's currently working as a truck driver, and paying tax, but fears it won't last now that his work permit has expired and the State is cracking down on illegal immigrants -- a vicious irony, considering how many undocuмented Irish have made lives in America and certainly wouldn't be welcomed back by the Government in the current financial crisis. "I have plans to stay until the end of the year," he said, "but if they catch me, I have to go.

    "My dream is destroyed in half an hour."

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    « Reply #4 on: April 07, 2013, 07:56:09 AM »
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  • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
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    Well it just about does now.


    Thanks to the cowardice and betrayal of politicians and the stupidity of the American voter, America is becoming Brazil in only 7 years from now!


    Ironically the economy in Brazil is good. I suppose the "American Dream" and dollar is better for Carlos.  


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    « Reply #5 on: April 07, 2013, 07:58:54 AM »
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  • I wonder what would happen if an American went to Brazil and stated at the airport they wanted the 'welfare  cheque'. I reckon you would be sent home very quickly.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 07, 2013, 08:05:14 AM »
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  • The other day in Dublin, I went into the immigration and naturalisation office and  the waiting room was packed. Of the 80 or 90 people in the waiting room not one of them was white.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 07, 2013, 08:16:49 AM »
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  • There is nothing patriotic about Mexicans or Brazilians leaving their Nation. Same for the Irish. You often get people complaining "there is nothing here for us" and other rubbish. Many of these emigrating are money grubbers. I would have more admiration for those, who remain at home and fight. To emigrate is what the enemy wants people to do.

    "Our own" Taoiseach (Prime Minister) Enda Kenny, a clown is a mere glove puppet for the International Financiers. He doesn't care who emigrates or not. His pension is safe.

    We should be outraged that people are uprooted from their Nations at the behest of evil Capitalism and big business.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 07, 2013, 08:22:07 AM »
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    Ironically the economy in Brazil is good. I suppose the "American Dream" and dollar is better for Carlos.  


    I was speaking of Brazil racially, which is a hodgepodge of European, African, Indian, mestizo, etc. all pushed together into one nation. Brazil was actually saved in a sense by the IMF bailout of Brazil back during the Clinton era.

    Let me say this: when it comes to values American values don't extend to anything past economics, greed, consumerism, hedonism, Wall Street, Hollywood, etc. America has no belief in a higher value of nation, race, and morality.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 07, 2013, 08:25:26 AM »
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  • Big Business suppoorts immigration into this country because it is cheap foreign labor for them. They have no problem privatizing the benefits of the money they make, while they socialize the costs of these immigrants to the taxpayers in the form of crime, welfare, loyalty, etc.

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    « Reply #10 on: April 07, 2013, 08:25:47 AM »
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  • A point to be made is perhaps we need to get back our own territory. The Scoti raided Roman Britain and most of this territory belongs to Ireland. We shouldn't forget the voyages of St. Brendan.


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    « Reply #11 on: April 07, 2013, 08:28:59 AM »
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  • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
    Big Business suppoorts immigration into this country because it is cheap foreign labor for them. They have no problem privatizing the benefits of the money they make, while they socialize the costs of these immigrants to the taxpayers in the form of crime, welfare, loyalty, etc.


    Indeed. The Irish capitalist meat factories bosses wanted cheap labour so Annapolis, Goias in Brazil was visited. They brought back 5 or 6 workers to one town but within 5 years about 2,000 Brazilians had arrived. The wives, the children, the neighbours arrived.

    Whilst all this was happening local youths were not able to get even a summer job. The Brazilian was cheaper.

    Then the meat factory goes on fire. Many Brazilians did return home, many can't afford to, others are hoping for better days, and take any work they can.

    Of all immigrants in Ireland, the Brazilians have been to highest in seeking voluntary repatriation.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 07, 2013, 08:37:32 AM »
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    Indeed. The Irish capitalist meat factories bosses wanted cheap labour so Annapolis, Goias in Brazil was visited. They brought back 5 or 6 workers to one town but within 5 years about 2,000 Brazilians had arrived. The wives, the children, the neighbours arrived.

    Whilst all this was happening local youths were not able to get even a summer job. The Brazilian was cheaper.


    In America the family farms were pushed aside in favor of huge mega-farms and multi-national corporations. While they had no problems using mestizo labor because it was cheap many Americans were out of jobs, nevermind the fact that the worker has little rights these days when it comes to these large corporations and are paid very little.

    Also these factory farms and slaughterhouses treat animals horribly, cutting off pigs' heads, and moving cattle with bulldozers, and making chickens so fat they can't even move on account of their own body wieght, crowding animals into pens as big as your kitchen,  with thousands of them in one building, etc.

    And let us not even mention that the food in America is concentrated into 4 huge monopolies of these large corporations.

    My beliefs as a Catholic and a conservative prescribe that I must be anti-capitalist and anti-corporate since these corporations only care about their own greed and care nothing for the worker. They are immoral behemoths.

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    « Reply #13 on: April 07, 2013, 08:37:59 AM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
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    Well it just about does now.


    Thanks to the cowardice and betrayal of politicians and the stupidity of the American voter, America is becoming Brazil in only 7 years from now!


    Ironically the economy in Brazil is good. I suppose the "American Dream" and dollar is better for Carlos.  
    Have you ever seen parts of that hellhole?

    Some of their ghettos make our worse slums look like Windsor Castle.

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    « Reply #14 on: April 07, 2013, 08:39:35 AM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
    The other day in Dublin, I went into the immigration and naturalisation office and  the waiting room was packed. Of the 80 or 90 people in the waiting room not one of them was white.
    Not including yourself of course.

    Isn't "multiculturalism" a glorious thing? :applause: