Author Topic: So lets just get this out in the open: Im a Jєωιѕн convert (Read 7261 times)

2Vermont · « **Reply #30 on:** September 21, 2013, 05:25:47 PM »

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There are individuals who irrationally oppose even those Jєωs who have earnestly come to the Church. Such people are to be denounced.

Can you provide an example or two here online of a few of those "individuals?"

I'm going to guess that one of them has appeared on this thread already. Many others have chosen the cowardly route of thumbs downing a lot of folks.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #31 on:** September 21, 2013, 05:31:25 PM »

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I'm guessing you didn't see my second post on this thread. I converted to the VII Church 16 years ago and am now coming to know the Traditional Catholic Faith. I certainly wish to know the Truth (as was the reason for my conversion in the first place).

I have a question for you. What was your opinion of U.S. Jєωry going up in arms about Catholics building a convent near Auschwitz?

2Vermont · « **Reply #32 on:** September 21, 2013, 05:33:32 PM »

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Well, it's been 16 years now for me, but thanks!! I feel like I'm just getting to know the real church though in the last few months or so.

Congratulations on your conversion. I haven't been here long but I think you should be welcome so long as you're not a zionist or a promoter of the ѕуηαgσgυє of satan.
In our ongoing conversions we find ourselves influenced by our previous belief systems, in my case protestant. So long as we're honest with ourselves and are willing to shed our old errors in favor of the truth when we are presented with it no one should condemn us for our past religion.
The problem with some Jєω converts that I have noticed is that they want to cling to judaism. Some have a pro judaism mindset and like to liken modern judaism to the religion of the old covenant. This type likes to excuse away the words of the saints who spoke the truth about judaism. They feel superior. No Jєω adores God. If this doesn't describe you then you're headed in the right direction.

Thank you ....and I hear you. I am not that kind of convert. You will never see me excuse my family or say that I think they will be saved without converting. It pains me to know they are lost (at least at this point in their lives), but I know that the Catholic Faith is the one, true Faith.

2Vermont · « **Reply #33 on:** September 21, 2013, 05:36:19 PM »

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I'm guessing you didn't see my second post on this thread. I converted to the VII Church 16 years ago and am now coming to know the Traditional Catholic Faith. I certainly wish to know the Truth (as was the reason for my conversion in the first place).

I have a question for you. What was your opinion of U.S. Jєωry going up in arms about Catholics building a convent near Auschwitz?

I'm sensing I am now going to vetted to see if I'm *that* kind of Jєωιѕн convert.

Wrt to your question I vaguely remember this, but I would not have an issue with a convent there. Many Catholics also died in the h0Ɩ0cαųst...many Catholics help save Jєωs from the h0Ɩ0cαųst.

2Vermont · « **Reply #34 on:** September 21, 2013, 05:41:17 PM »

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2Vermont,

Tell us about your conversion.

It was a three year journey and I'm not sure I want to go there on a public forum just yet....especially one that I'm totally new to.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #35 on:** September 21, 2013, 05:44:36 PM »

What is your opinion about The Passion of the Christ? Did you feel it was "anti-Semetic"?

2Vermont · « **Reply #36 on:** September 21, 2013, 05:48:09 PM »

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Our Lady was not born into the Jєωιѕн religion. She practiced the Faith of Israel, which has nothing to do with the religion of the Jєωs of today.

The faith we now call Catholic is nothing more or less than the fulfillment of the Faith given to and through Moses. The Faith of the Israelites was the Catholic Faith as it was before the fulfillment of the symbolic and ceremonial laws by Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Those who convert from modern Judaism are converting from a corrupted religion that is rife with Babylonian paganism and superstition that was never practiced by Our Lord or any Israelite who faithfully kept God's covenant.

It is the rejection of Jesus Christ as the Messiah combined with the pagan aspects of modern Jєωιѕн religion that keep the veil over the hearts of those who hold the truth of the Old Testament Scripture in unrighteousness.

A "Jєω" who rejects the Babylonian nonsense is on their way to being a Catholic because that's what the Faith has always been.

Welcome, 2Vermont, and know that if you have been baptized into the Church, you belong to the one Faith where ethnicity and bloodlines no longer matter, Christ Himself being the Source of our unity.

Beware of the false teachers and posters who would try to convince you that "Jєωιѕнness" matters a bit once you've converted. That's heresy.

Again, welcome. Be assured of my prayers.

Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

I agree that Reformed Judaism is very different from the Jєωιѕн Faith in Christ's time; however, I'm not so sure I'd say it has "nothing" to do with it. Keep in mind that there are different sects of Jєωs in modern times. The most religious sects probably have the most to do with the religion in Christ's time (and prior).

2Vermont · « **Reply #37 on:** September 21, 2013, 05:51:24 PM »

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What is your opinion about The Passion of the Christ? Did you feel it was "anti-Semetic"?

Absolutely not.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #38 on:** September 21, 2013, 05:57:13 PM »

Do you acknowledge that Jєωs in Hollywood and the press tried to push America into war during World War II like Charles Lindbergh said?

2Vermont · « **Reply #39 on:** September 21, 2013, 06:05:45 PM »

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Do you acknowledge that Jєωs in Hollywood and the press tried to push America into war during World War II like Charles Lindbergh said?

Don't know enough about it. Not sure why that would be important on a Catholic website though. I'm not discussing politics here. I'm discussing the Catholic Faith.

If you're trying to put me in a little box, you're just going to have to judge me by my future posts.

I don't do third degree.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #40 on:** September 21, 2013, 06:37:22 PM »

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Because I'm hearing that Jєωs aren't trusted around here

Who are you hearing this from? Which Jєωs are not trusted "around here?" You're not referring to Jєωs like Benjamin Netenyahu, Lloyd Blankfein and Henry Kissenger, are you? Indeed, those Jєωs may not be trusted around here. :rolleyes:

He's probably referring to the thread about Hitler's view on Christianity and the other about nαzιsm as Germanic тαℓмυdism. Those threads are full of nαzι apologists. I think those are reasonable grounds for concern.

Actually, I have not read any thread to lead me to believe any of this. I was sent a PM this morning warning me that this probably isn't a good forum for me. So I thought I'd cut to the chase.

Lol, was it sent by JayneK or BrainGlitch?

Don't worry, you don't have to answer. PMs are PMs. Most of the people here are pretty sensitive to Jєωry tricks (could I say sometimes even too sensitive?) and if you were going to be the subject of an inquisition, you already would have been. Of course, now by announcing it and inviting an inquisition, you'll receive one anyways, but I suppose that's the nature of public statements.

I have not seen anything in your posts yet that would suggest you are a Jєωιѕн sympathizer.

BTNYC · « **Reply #41 on:** September 21, 2013, 06:39:59 PM »

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Well, it's been 16 years now for me, but thanks!! I feel like I'm just getting to know the real church though in the last few months or so.

Congratulations on your conversion. I haven't been here long but I think you should be welcome so long as you're not a zionist or a promoter of the ѕуηαgσgυє of satan.
In our ongoing conversions we find ourselves influenced by our previous belief systems, in my case protestant. So long as we're honest with ourselves and are willing to shed our old errors in favor of the truth when we are presented with it no one should condemn us for our past religion.
The problem with some Jєω converts that I have noticed is that they want to cling to judaism. Some have a pro judaism mindset and like to liken modern judaism to the religion of the old covenant. This type likes to excuse away the words of the saints who spoke the truth about judaism. They feel superior. No Jєω adores God. If this doesn't describe you then you're headed in the right direction.

Thank you ....and I hear you. I am not that kind of convert. You will never see me excuse my family or say that I think they will be saved without converting. It pains me to know they are lost (at least at this point in their lives), but I know that the Catholic Faith is the one, true Faith.

God bless you. Familial and cultural ties are usually the biggest impediment to conversion for Jєωs.

I will pray for you and your family. May Our Lord and His Blessed Mother pour out every possible blessing upon you for suffering for the Faith.

2Vermont · « **Reply #42 on:** September 21, 2013, 06:46:10 PM »

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Because I'm hearing that Jєωs aren't trusted around here

Who are you hearing this from? Which Jєωs are not trusted "around here?" You're not referring to Jєωs like Benjamin Netenyahu, Lloyd Blankfein and Henry Kissenger, are you? Indeed, those Jєωs may not be trusted around here. :rolleyes:

He's probably referring to the thread about Hitler's view on Christianity and the other about nαzιsm as Germanic тαℓмυdism. Those threads are full of nαzι apologists. I think those are reasonable grounds for concern.

Actually, I have not read any thread to lead me to believe any of this. I was sent a PM this morning warning me that this probably isn't a good forum for me. So I thought I'd cut to the chase.

Lol, was it sent by JayneK or BrainGlitch?

Don't worry, you don't have to answer. PMs are PMs. Most of the people here are pretty sensitive to Jєωry tricks (could I say sometimes even too sensitive?) and if you were going to be the subject of an inquisition, you already would have been. Of course, now by announcing it and inviting an inquisition, you'll receive one anyways, but I suppose that's the nature of public statements.

I have not seen anything in your posts yet that would suggest you are a Jєωιѕн sympathizer.

No, it wasn't them. And I want to say that because, despite the fact that Jayne and I did not get a long at FE, I don't want folks to think it was her.

But you're right, I don't have to answer any questions I don't wish to answer though. People will have to continue to judge me on my posts. As I said to Traditional Guy, I'm so not doing the third degree.

I don't even know how one defines a "Jєωιѕн sympathizer" and I have to wonder about the use of such a term in and of itself. Can I sympathize with my family since I was once Jєωιѕн and understand how they might feel pre-conversion? Yes. Does that mean I think the Church should (continue to) go soft on trying to convert Jєωs? No. Do I think the Pope should be attending Jєωιѕн services? No.

BTNYC · « **Reply #43 on:** September 21, 2013, 07:14:26 PM »

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Anyone have an issue with that? Because I'm hearing that Jєωs aren't trusted around here (convert or not)

And I would like to know exactly what I'm getting myself into here.

Congratulations! The Church has many, many Jєωιѕн converts, Blessed Mother herself.

The Blessed Mother, St. Joseph, and Christ himself were not Jєωs. They were Judeans, from the tribe of Judah. The word "Jєω" in English has been taken from an incorrect translation of the word Judean.

Most people who call themselves "Jєωs" today have nothing at all genetically linked to the Holy Land; they come from the Khazar Kingdom around modern day southern Russia. They converted from their paganism to тαℓмυdism in the middle ages. Benjamin Freedman has written extensively on this.

And even in the Old Testament, God's chosen people did not go around calling themselves "Jєωs", and the definitely did not profess belief in the modern day тαℓмυd with all of its blasphemies and filth.

You pose some interesting points.

The "Jєω" vs "Judaean" bit strikes me somewhat as an issue of semantics. I can't discard the word "Jєω" with reference to Our Lord and Our Lady, simply because the Douay Rheims makes use of it, and if it's good enough for the DR it's good enough for me.

However, I can see the need for some term to distinguish the Judaean Hebrews of Our Lord's time from the тαℓмυdic-Rabbinical Jєωs of today. I don't have any easy answers but it is worth talking about.

The Khazar origins of αѕнкenαzι Jєωs theory strikes me as pretty sound, but I'm not sure what difference it ultimately makes. Sephardic Jєωs are no doubt genuine semites, but also belong to the same тαℓмυdic ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. And the αѕнкenαzιs also must also share in the blessings and curses of the Jєωιѕн race - whether by adherence to тαℓмυdism, or some admixture of true Jєωιѕн blood - because it is undoubtedly they (the αѕнкenαzιs) who wield the most power and influence among Jєωs.

In any case, we can all agree the clearest distinction must be made between the Religion of the Old Testament (which the Catholic Church is the continuation / fulfillment of) and the modern Satanic, тαℓмυdic Rabbinical debating society founded at the Council of Jamnia after the destruction of the Temple known as "Judaism." Nothing boils my blood like hearing ostensibly Catholic ignoramuses repeat the damnable lie that "we came from Judaism."

2Vermont · « **Reply #44 on:** September 21, 2013, 07:22:32 PM »

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In any case, we can all agree the clearest distinction must be made between the Religion of the Old Testament (which the Catholic Church is the continuation / fulfillment of) and the modern Satanic, тαℓмυdic Rabbinical debating society founded at the Council of Jamnia after the destruction of the Temple known as "Judaism." Nothing boils my blood like hearing ostensibly Catholic ignoramuses repeat the damnable lie that "we came from Judaism."

But I think this is also semantics. Yes, technically, the Jєωιѕн Faith of modern times is not the same as Temple times. I think when most Catholics say we came from Judaism, they are referring to the Jєωιѕн roots that comes from Christ's time. I know that is what I mean when I say it.