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Offline s2srea

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So called experts in Trevon Martin case...
« on: March 21, 2012, 09:22:37 AM »
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  • This was a good article, and hits all the points when I keep hearing about this case.


    Let’s look at some of the so-called “hard evidence” the media, outraged citizens, and the carnival barking so-called legal and law enforcement experts are using to justify arresting George Zimmerman:

    The law mandates that George Zimmerman should have been arrested.

    Law enforcement has no legal requirement or obligation to make an immediate arrest for anything. There is no mandate. There is no question that Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman admitted it. There is a question as to whether or not a crime—a legal crime not a social or moral crime—was committed.

    Mr. Zimmerman called the police 46 times in one year.

    This is absolutely meaningless and ludicrous. It is not an indication of premeditated criminal activity. It is not an indication of anything. If he called 365 or 730 times in one year it proves nothing, except the experts are not really experts.

    Mr. Zimmerman was not tested for drugs or alcohol. Trayvon Martin was.

    Except for DUIs, police cannot test suspects for drugs or alcohol, unless the accused demands or consents to it, or they get a warrant. Trayvon Martin was tested for drugs and alcohol because it is the normal procedure of autopsies to determine the exact cause of death or contributing factors of death. The so-called law enforcement and legal experts who claim Zimmerman should have been tested demonstrate they have no expertise. As stated before, they are carnival barkers.

    George Zimmerman is a racist.

    There is no proof of that. Being a racist is socially and morally repugnant. It is not illegal.

    This was a hate crime.

    See above. There is no evidence that a hate crime was committed. No one heard Mr. Zimmerman call Trayvon Martin a racial epithet before, during or after the incident. A—h— is not a racial epithet, no matter how many code word cryptologists come out of the woodwork.

    George Zimmerman did not obey the police dispatcher.

    Disobeying a police dispatcher is not illegal. It is stupid. Stupidity is not a crime.

    George Zimmerman was an overzealous neighborhood watch captain.

    So what? It is not an indication of criminal behavior. It does not prove he was hunting people down to kill them.    

    George Zimmerman had some minor scrapes with the law.

    So have vast numbers of other people. Some were even allowed to become police officers, federal agents, and high elected officials.

    The federal government has stepped in.

    They stepped in because of national publicity and power politics; some congressmen have their shorts in a twist. The Department of Justice and the F.B.I. will take no action unless they have jurisdiction. They will investigate to determine if a federal crime was committed. They also have much more stringent standards for arresting people than local police.

    The cell phone call to Trayvon Martin’s (girl) friend.

    Nothing in that call indicates a crime was committed or going to be committed. It only shows Martin was fearful of Zimmerman following him.

    Here is something the so-called legal experts are not telling you. Arresting George Zimmerman the day of the incident, even on a minor charge of reckless conduct, would have been potentially damaging to future prosecution. Once someone is arrested a clock starts ticking. He must be arraigned or brought before a grand jury within a certain time period. He must be brought to trial by a certain date. If the police and prosecutor’s investigation is not complete in order to charge him with more serious crimes, or it is weak, a judge would let George Zimmerman walk. That could hypothetically happen the first day of a trial. What would all the exploding heads do with their moral indignation then?  

    Trayvon Martin was killed. George Zimmerman killed him. That is all we legally know, no matter how many lawyers, experts, or professional social justice protesters spout speculation.




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    So called experts in Trevon Martin case...
    « Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 09:24:06 AM »
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  • I wont be as foolish as Roscoe, and say there is no such thing as racism. The fact that its a term used by Communists, doesn't mean its a term that doesn't exist; its only overly abused today, as in this case.


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    So called experts in Trevon Martin case...
    « Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 10:33:21 AM »
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  • Trevon Martin R.I.P. May the Good Lord wipe away your tears and those of your bereaved family!

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    So called experts in Trevon Martin case...
    « Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 10:54:09 AM »
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  • Looks like Zimmermann is a wanna-be cop who was eager to use his gun.

    My sympathy is for the family of Trayvon Martin.  


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    « Reply #4 on: March 21, 2012, 11:14:38 AM »
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  • Quote from: Elizabeth
    Looks like Zimmermann is a wanna-be cop who was eager to use his gun.


    While it seems like it, I don't know, and I don't think anyone knows. And really don't know if what happens constitutes murder. I believe what happened, in the minutes leading up to this tragic death, is very hazy at best. While Zimmerman may have placed himself in a situation/ scuffle he shouldn't have gotten into, we don't know the details.

    The black community, encouraged by the media, in the US is all too eager to act as if they know everything. Its simply not the case. We keep hearing, "If it was a black person who did this to a non-black he would have been arrested by now!" But lets get real, if a black teen/young adult was walking around my neighbor hood, with his hoodie on, I would be suspicious too. Because he's black? Yes. Blacks in America don't have a good reputation; they've built a bad one for themselves here. I think blacks in other countries are viewed differently then they are here.

    Their own bad young men have caused the issues that good black young men face today. The same can be true for many people. Muslims have caused most people of middle eastern descent to be distrusted. Even I, who am part middle eastern have this same stereotype of Arabs, particularly Muslims. They brought this on themselves, and get upset when people react to natural prejudice.

    I'm not saying there aren't crooked cops. I'm saying we don't know the details, and shouldn't be too eager to assume we know what happened. These people are calling for this man's arrest, when they have no authority to do so.



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    « Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 03:11:40 PM »
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  • Here is another discussion of the incident. Apparently thee is some question re: Zimmerman's ethnic heritage-- Judaix or Mexican

    http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/index.php?topic=23258.0
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    « Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 03:17:05 PM »
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  • It doesn't matter what Zimmerman's ethnic ID really is because Sharpton and the other eternal victicrats( who are amply represented here at cathinfo) will conceive of this 'hate' crime perpetrated by a 'white' man on a nigerian.
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    « Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 03:20:17 PM »
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  • Larry Elder has been covering this on his show-- 3-6 pm PT.

    http://www.kabc.com
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    « Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 03:33:38 PM »
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  • In case anyone has forgotten, a Mexican cannot perpetrate a 'hate' crime acc to FBI stats. When one does, it is counted as 'white'. They can however be victims of a 'hate' crime-- hence the term victicrat.
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    « Reply #10 on: March 21, 2012, 04:03:57 PM »
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  • I do agree that these Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons are good for nothing self promoters who do nothing but incite the black race, and whites who will believe anything they view in the media.


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    « Reply #11 on: March 21, 2012, 05:28:54 PM »
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  • Hate crimes are a bit ridiculous, since they are targeted against the race least likely to commit them. The stats on interracial crime indicate that incidences of nonwhite-on-white violence are dramatically higher than incidences of white-on-nonwhite crime. If I got my view of reality from the mainstream news and not from living in the world I would assume that US whites are bloodthirsty savages ready to lynch nonwhites at the drop of a hat.

    I don't know the details of this case, but I have learned to not give blacks the benefit of the doubt. As s2rsea says, they have earned their negative reputation, and the bad apples outnumber the good apples by a large number.


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    « Reply #12 on: March 21, 2012, 06:52:33 PM »
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  • I can't wait to see which(witch) Victicrat will be the first to label U a 'racist'.
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    « Reply #13 on: March 21, 2012, 07:08:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: roscoe
    I can't wait to see which(witch) Victicrat will be the first to label U a 'racist'.


    What are you talking about roscoe- there's no such thing as 'racist'.

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    « Reply #14 on: March 21, 2012, 08:53:08 PM »
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  •  :roll-laugh1:
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