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Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2018, 04:38:10 PM »
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  • I think, this might be more appropiate for the ladies to wear at the OP's chapel... ::)



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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #31 on: March 12, 2018, 05:27:39 PM »
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  • I think, this might be more appropiate for the ladies to wear at the OP's chapel... ::)


    Which of the two fashions do you think God or Our Lady would look be shocked at?
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #32 on: March 12, 2018, 05:50:58 PM »
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  • Our Lady of Fatima told little Jacinta Marto in 1919:
    "Certain fashions are to be introduced which will offend Our Lord very much.  Those who serve God should not follow these fashions.  The Church has no fashions. Our Lord is always the same"

    Which of the two pictures of fashions above do you think offend Our Lord? Do you think those Moslem women are offending our Lord with their custom?
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #33 on: March 12, 2018, 05:51:08 PM »
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  • Which of the two fashions do you think God or Our Lady would look be shocked at?
    Both.

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #34 on: March 12, 2018, 05:53:18 PM »
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  • We had a family of teen girls invade our chapel for two years.  While here, they all dressed immodestly: short skirts, tight clothes, lots of makeup, high heels, lots of Jєωelry.  The young men fell all over them.  It was sickening.


    One day their youngest daughter asked my pre teen daughter why she won't talk to her.  My daughter's reply: " because you don't dress modestly."


    The mother of the immodest girls came over to me, fuming.  She insisted it wasnt true.  I told her to look around, and that it WAS true.


    The families eldest daughter was married and came to mass with her husband.   My best friend would ask me after mass: "did you see the nightgown she wore to mass today?"  Terrible scandalous.


    The saddest part about it all is that her daughters married all the eligible young men in the chapel.  Very sad that the parents of those young men did not advise otherwise...


    I completely understand not getting in someone's face when they are new, but after a few months they should get the picture.  If not, someone should request that the priest address the family.


    I am 100% opposed to a woman approaching a family.  We had a woman at our chapel who appointed herself such a person.  It was bad...  always turned a blind eye to her own daughter's, but was on every one else's case.

    No, only the priest should comment.


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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #35 on: March 12, 2018, 06:17:01 PM »
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  • I think, this might be more appropiate for the ladies to wear at the OP's chapel... ::)


    The perfect solution to face-to-face confession!  Would be problematic for communion, however.

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    Now that the heat of summer is upon us, this is a good opportunity to briefly review the topic of how Catholics should apparel themselves.
    Pastor's Corner for Sunday, June 21
    Summer is on us and with it, the heat. Which makes us feel the need to discard layers of clothes and be freer with our movements. With this desire though, necessarily comes the obligation to continue dressing modestly, and here are some tips about accomplishing this in our own day and age.
    It is good to review the dress code that should be posted at the entrance of churches in accordance with Canon Law (CIC 1262, 2). Though this reflects the Church’s mind for sacred places, it nonetheless also comprises a general rule of thumb for public life.
    And while every Catholic has rights (to receive the sacraments), he or she also has duties to fulfill in order to maintain these rights; thus why the Holy See has gone so far (for the preservation of souls) to prescribe: “to remove from Communion and even from Church, improperly dressed women.”[1]—this rule can of course be applied also to men.
    Another quick rule of thumb is to dress in a dignified manner that will evoke respect. For in addition to providing an edifying example, our dress also defines who we are in society. Thus the appropriateness of a mother’s or father’s dress (particularly in the privacy of home life) can positively or negatively impact the formation of their children—this important aspect is not only contingent upon the modesty of the clothes worn by the parents, but even by their quality, that is, dressing shabbily versus well within one’s means.
    An even further consideration for men and women is to dress properly according to their nature, or respectively, according to their masculinity or femininity. For men, this means they should not wear tight-fitting clothes or in general, go shirtless in public (especially for fathers, even around the home in front of their children).
    For the ladies, to dress like a man (such as wearing pants) is improper and contradicts a woman’s God-given femininity. That this is not merely an “old fuddy duddy’s” quibble, should be evident when we realize that the proponents of unisex clothing have also been the same “gender theory” people behind the promotion of sins against nature.
    It is interesting to note that the “Lion of Campos”, Bishop de Castro Mayer, once famously remarked in a pastoral letter that he would prefer a woman to wear a mini-skirt rather than pants. For while the mini-skirt was immodest, it was at least feminine, while pants contradicted a woman’s nature (thus the former attacked the senses, while the latter warped the intellect).
    Therefore, so-called “woman’s pants” (usually worn out of pleasure or commodity) are not the proper garb of a Catholic (or Marian-like) girl or lady, either in the parish, domestic or social life. However, if the wearing pants by women cannot be completely avoided due to the circuмstances of our time (profession, security, extraordinary activity, etc.), they should at least disappear from family, social and parish life.
    Concerning modest dress—and this applies to both men and women—the underlying principle is that it should more cover, rather than expose oneself to the allurement of the public eye. Thus both men and women should dress so as to inspire respect and chaste love, as opposed to the enkindling of lust.
    Albeit, finding proper clothes today can be very difficult today, as most fashions are terribly provocative and have been designed to induce impurity. This is especially the case for women’s fashions; however, good women (using a bit of resourcefulness) can still manage to dress with modest attractiveness and charm—and without appearing that they have just stepped off a set of Little House on the Prairie!
    A last word regarding the issue of swimming. Unfortunately there is little available in the stores today that is even half-way decent, or modest, though some have attempted to alleviate this deficiency by wearing t-shirts over their swimwear. But even more importantly perhaps are the oft-ignored ecclesiastical admonitions against the dangers of swimming in public places. Thus we are compelled to exhort families to make the effort to find a secluded place to swim amongst themselves—or not at all. Better to forgo the recreational (and optional) pleasure of swimming then to endanger the souls of one’s family (or of others)!
    In concluding this brief review on the importance of dressing modestly, here are some pertinent quotes (and one illustrative example)—which far from being ancient, are of recent date, and thus ever new.

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    G.K. Chesterton: “unless we live as we believe, we’ll end up believing as we live.”
    Pope Pius XII: “The purity of souls living the supernatural life of grace is not preserved and will never be preserved without combat.” Many women and girls stubbornly persist in "following certain shameless styles like so many sheep." "They would certainly blush if they could guess the impression they make and the feeling they evoke in those who see them."
    Padre Pio (+1968) repeatedly refused to absolve women who did not wear a skirt that extended at least 8 inches below the knee, while also insisting that they did not wear slacks.
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    The sins of the world are too great! The sins which lead most souls to hell are sins of the flesh! Certain fashions are going to be introduced which will offend Our Lord very much. Those who serve God should not follow these fashions. The Church has no fashions; Our Lord is always the same."
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #38 on: March 12, 2018, 08:12:54 PM »
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  • Here are some examples of modern modest lady’s fashion (modern meaning not 1800’s)
    I really don’t see why people say its so difficult, it’s really not that bad.
    I wear a light scarf around my neck to solve the neckline problem that is present on most women’s tops. And lightweight sweater for shorter sleeves.
    So why all the fuss? Do Trad Women need to hire a stylist to not dress immodest? Or the other trad extreme, frumpy?

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #39 on: March 12, 2018, 10:15:31 PM »
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  • Which of the two fashions do you think God or Our Lady would look be shocked at?

    Both, as they both go against the true dignity of woman.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #40 on: March 12, 2018, 10:18:00 PM »
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  • Neither, as they both go against the true dignity of woman.
    The better question was: "Which of the two pictures of fashions above do you think offend Our Lord? Do you think those Moslem women are offending our Lord with their custom?"

    I do not think so.

    Besides, it is ridiculous to bring it up in the first place, as the Church has never asked women to cover their heads with a sack. The person that posted it likely thought it was funny, who knows what the reason was. I have six young daughters and I do not think it is funny to derail this serious thread with such inane infantilism.
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #41 on: March 12, 2018, 10:24:09 PM »
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  • The better question was: "Which of the two pictures of fashions above do you think offend Our Lord? Do you think those Moslem women are offending our Lord with their custom?"

    I do not think so.

    Besides, it is ridiculous to bring it up in the first place, as the Church has never asked women to cover their heads. The person that posted it likely thought it was funny, who knows what the reason was. I have six young daughters and I do not think it is funny to derail this serious thread with such stupid jokes.

    I meant both  ::).

    I am getting sleepy now :sleep:. It has been a looooong day. Will respond tomorrow.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #42 on: March 12, 2018, 10:45:38 PM »
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  • Here are some examples of modern modest lady’s fashion (modern meaning not 1800’s)
    Most of the young girls at my SSPX chapel outside of mass, wear short shorts, tight jeans, tight revealing tank tops with belly exposed and such clothing same as anybody else in the world. If the fashions you posted are for every day wear, they are a step in the right direction.

    Some of the items though remind me of movies. There are some (very few) excellent movies, that teach a good lesson, entertain, or provide  a good laugh (comedies), however, coming from Hollywood, they practically always contain one scene or a few words that makes the entire movie unwatchable for children and young adults. There is absolutely no need to add those scenes, as they only detract from the movie, but Hollywood has its purpose for adding those little details, to corrupt young people.

    I am a father of quite a few girls.  In the case of those fashions you posted, they are like the excellent movies I just described above, everything is fine, except they added something totally unnecessary which makes it unwearable for my girls. The two white tops are see through and the underwear is colored. There is no need for the see through, or the colored underwear below. If you blow up the first picture you will see what I mean. In the second picture, it is not as clear. The two tops are also tight. If those two models were built like Marilyn Monroe, there would be no difference between the tight sweater picture I posted of her and the white tops in your pictures.

    There is no need for the tops to be see through, or tight, or the underwear colored. If those details were corrected, then these outfits could be worn by my girls.
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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #43 on: March 12, 2018, 11:43:38 PM »
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  • Most of the young girls at my SSPX chapel outside of mass, wear short shorts, tight jeans, tight revealing tank tops with belly exposed and such clothing same as anybody else in the world. If the fashions you posted are for every day wear, they are a step in the right direction.

    Some of the items though remind me of movies. There are some (very few) excellent movies, that teach a good lesson, entertain, or provide  a good laugh (comedies), however, coming from Hollywood, they practically always contain one scene or a few words that makes the entire movie unwatchable for children and young adults. There is absolutely no need to add those scenes, as they only detract from the movie, but Hollywood has its purpose for adding those little details, to corrupt young people.

    I am a father of quite a few girls.  In the case of those fashions you posted, they are like the excellent movies I just described above, everything is fine, except they added something totally unnecessary which makes it unwearable for my girls. The two white tops are see through and the underwear is colored. There is no need for the see through, or the colored underwear below. If you blow up the first picture you will see what I mean. In the second picture, it is not as clear. The two tops are also tight. If those two models were built like Marilyn Monroe, there would be no difference between the tight sweater picture I posted of her and the white tops in your pictures.

    There is no need for the tops to be see through, or tight, or the underwear colored. If those details were corrected, then these outfits could be worn by my girls.
    These examples were only shown to give a rough idea of ‘modern modest’. 
    I tweak clothing for my younger girls quite easily, which one could do similarly with these outfits also. 
    One example: Do you know those formal dresses for girls that are mostly tank style that come out every Spring? My solution, I put a white collared school shirt underneath(pictured below)..modesty problem solved. So no more fretting over not being able to find modest dresses I just use cotton shirts and sweaters. Easy-peasy: ) 

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    Re: Slow Boiling the Mass Fashions of Women
    « Reply #44 on: March 12, 2018, 11:47:29 PM »
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  • Which of the two fashions do you think God or Our Lady would look be shocked at?
    Fake paradigm, brah, for both are inspired by the Jєω.

    The left is Wahhabism, which was created by crypto-Jєωs; and the House of Saud is a crypto-Jєω family, which is why you never see them intervene on behalf of, or give aid to, Palestinians who are victims of Israeli ethnic cleansing. It's why Saudi Arabia and Israel colluded to create ISIS to try to destroy Syria. They collaborated to foment the revolution in Syria along with providing outside mercenaries and ISIS to overthrow Assad.

    The right is the early genesis of the spirit of Asmodeus, which manifests in pop culture's dress attire. As intended, in this post-modern age, the attire of prostitutes from 10-15 years ago becomes the normal casual wear of little girls and women, today.

    As Cantarella says, both are an affront to the dignity of woman.
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