????Most of we women in our 50s don't have figures like Marilyn Monroe, so if we're wearing sweaters like hers, there is no possibility of tempting the men.  More likely we're disgusting them, and everyone else!  But, hey, I speak only for myself.  I wouldn't ever wear a form-fitting sweater with push-up bra even if I did have a great figure.  If women come regularly this way to mass, shame on them, and shame on their husbands, fathers, and the priests for not educating and correcting them.

I'd say there are about 4 families in my sspx parish who are 95-100% modest all the time.  And about 2 other families who are very close to conforming to true catholic modesty.  The other 30~ families are somewhere in between pagan culture and true modesty.  From my knowledge of other families I would say around 30-50% of families (not singles) wear skirts outside the home.
But the biggest issue is tops and blouses, I regularly see complete skin tight tops (in mass and out) that leave nothing to the imagination.  No real catholic wants to know your bra size!  I have seen in Mass women's underwear showing through their skin tight skirts!  

Gross immodesty has been at every chapel I have been to, which ranges from cmri, SGG group, sspx, independent. The women are not doing anything, the priests are not doing anything.  I doubt most traditional catholics even know basic modesty rules!  

Priests should be directing their flock to heaven, not to years of purgatory for thousands of immodesty sins or worse.  Parents should be enforcing their priests direction.  Children and adults should be obeying them.  And then their future children obey them.  

How can you get to heaven when you are in sin all the time!  By being immodest these women (and men) are committing sin from the time they put on their clothes and walk out the door.  

The thing about modesty that is so stupid is that it is the easiest sin to not do! It is a physical act that requires very little effort, maybe a snide comment behind your back, which we wear as a badge of honor!  Catholics are not modern pagans, why are we dressing like them!

My parents in law have shown dozens of traditional catholic families over the years the rules of the church for modesty (always nicely and gently). Guess how many started dressing modestly?  Zero. I believe 2 or 3 men have worn a suit (or at least a tie) because of my example, and hopefully if any future children or wives they will dress them well.  I can only lead by example, and if someone asks for any help regarding modesty I will give it and hopefully they change.  

I remember a while back a random little girl around 10 came to my spouse and said, 'I always love your (handmade modest) dresses they are so beautiful'.  She was wearing a dress half way up her thighs and her mother was mostly immodest too.  We know the natural law as children, we know right from wrong, this little girl saw the beauty of modesty and femininity, Parents and Priests need to too.  

I used to get angry and hung up when I would see Immodesty but now I have come to peace that by being a traditional catholic I will be surrounded by immodesty, even at church.  But I see the few families that are modest and it gives me hope.  Because the modest families have 10 children while the immodest ones have 5.  Eventually the laity will become modest again, by process of elimination.  


A quick guide of modesty rules and suggestions   (maybe this will help anyone in need who is reading this, or please share it)
Women must wear skirts always outside the home.  They should be 2 inches below the knee (minimum). In church out of respect for God they should be longer but not required.  Skirts can not be tight or form fitting, or see-through this is a serious error many women make.  
Tops and blouses are governed by the 2 finger rule, two fingers below the collarbone, two fingers on the side of the base of the neck, and in the back from the base of the neck.  Tops cannot be form fitting and should be moderately loose around chest.  
The sleeve length should be to the elbow, but B XV abrogated it temporarily to be at the middle of the bicep.
No bikini or one piece or 'mom' swim outfit, there is modest swimwear that has waterproof skirts and tops.  Wearing a bikini most likely is a mortal sin.  

Men in mass should wear a suit or a shirt and tie with sweater or vest.  At a minimum Dress shirt and tie.  Jeans are not appropriate at mass ever.  Outside of the home a collared shirt (polo or dress shirt), some collarless shirts might be appropriate (like mandarin style).
T shirts are not outerwear unless at a sport or physical labor (and this should be discouraged). This goes for women too.  Shorts, unless it is sweltering hot should not be worn by adult men. You need to dress your age.  Men should not appear topless, unless you are a boxer there is never a reason not to wear a shirt.  
          Rules from Pius XII, Pius XI, Benedict XV and a variety of saints.  
          Show the world you are not of this world by the way you dress, your soul and those around you are at stake.

This is my rant, please reflect and pray that modesty will come back to the traditional Catholic movement.  

As a man I can honestly say that were I to be pulled into staring at those images I would in all likelihood commit a sin if not necessarily by direct thought and even possible subsequent action then at the very least by having willfully and knowingly placed myself in the immediate occasion of sin.

The images are just pictures of what you will see in your SSPX chapel every Sunday, so if they are so dangerous to you as you describe, why don't you take the same holy anger you exhibit here and apply it to the real world in your chapel?  The first place to apply it is where you are in charge, your family. Marilyn Monroe in those pictures is a pretty young girl like 23, maybe an older less attractive woman wearing the same thing does not affect you the same way? Don't attack the messenger, go and take care of the matter in the real world.

The OP is no small irony in so much as it displays 2 impure fashion images and then complains about impure fashions. Unfortunately, there are some Catholic websites such as traditioninaction.org that seem to think it is perfectly all right to place very impure images on their sites.  (It is particularly ironic for tradtioninaction.org to do so in so far as they carry a number of excellent articles rightly decrying the use of immodest/impure fashions.)

Instead of applying Traditioninaction's  excellent information and articles, I hope you are not just attack the messenger and doing nothing in the real world to take care of the matter.

As Catholics we should never forget the basic Catholic principle that one may never do evil in order to bring about good.  That includes the placement of impure images on the Internet -- especially on a Catholic site!  

That is correct, except, what are you doing about the impurely dressed real people all around you in your chapel?

If those pictures are as impure as you state why not declare it from the rooftops at your chapel?

????Most of we women in our 50s don't have figures like Marilyn Monroe, so if we're wearing sweaters like hers, there is no possibility of tempting the men.  More likely we're disgusting them, and everyone else!  But, hey, I speak only for myself.  I wouldn't ever wear a form-fitting sweater with push-up bra even if I did have a great figure.  If women come regularly this way to mass, shame on them, and shame on their husbands, fathers, and the priests for not educating and correcting them.

Another thing, as a son, I would be ashamed of my mother for wearing provocative clothes. She is a mother, not woman trying to attract attention from men to make herself feel wanted and pretty.

Another thing, as a son, I would be ashamed of my mother for wearing provocative clothes. She is a mother, not woman trying to attract attention from men to make herself feel wanted and pretty.

I think there is something particularly malicious in the modern moms out there who show their pregnant bellies to everyone trying to appear "sexy" , a "hot mama" as they say. What is it with all these pregnant women in bikini showing off their pregnant bellies in social media or wanting to nurse in public showing off their breasts? It is repugnant (not the nursing in itself but the gross immodesty and lack of feminine pudor). Actually, TIA has a great article about this phenomenon here:

Immodest Trends in Maternity Wear


Women's excessive craving of attention and showing off really need to be restricted in a well ordered society, for it goes out of control very quick. I don't think words and sermons alone would be sufficient. Not long ago, there were legal implications enforced by society for cases of gross and public indecency. Immodesty in single young girls is bad, but in married women and mothers is even worse. 

Unfortunately, women have absolutely no clue of the true male nature and many sin, not even out of malice, but of plain foolishness. We need to be properly trained and taught in this respect, since infancy.

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This is what I meant by 'womens league' which does not exist in most chapels i've been to.  Also, when should the priest address such a question - in the 5 minutes he has between confessions and the start of mass?  I'm not suggesting that random men go correcting such ladies, but that they should be corrected and advised of the dress code policy by the ushers.  And if not, then Fathers of families can go get an older lady to discuss the topic.  I think we somewhat agree, except you are presuming that there's an organized group of ladies that watch/handle such things.  I've never seen this type of thing in existence, that's my point.

What part of "women of the parish" even hints that it is an organization?  Stop accusing me of "presuming that there's an organized group of ladies".
So you advise that male ushers (strangers) approach a woman in a tight top and advise her of a dress code policy?  I can just imagine the fallout from that.  Here you are presuming that just because he's an usher he would know how to handle this type of situation or are you presuming that because he's male he's all capable?