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Offline crossbro

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Should high paid pro atheletes get paternity leave ?
« on: April 04, 2014, 10:31:42 AM »
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  • Three days before a game one of the players becomes a daddy. He no shows for the game.

    The average pay for an MLB player is $3.2 million dollars.

    I think he should have made it to the game. They get more than 4 months off per year. We have people in the military not being able to get home to see their families for months at a time.

    Now, I would not have gone as far as one commentator did by saying the if the guy wanted the time off then his wife should have gotten a C-section a couple weeks earlier.


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    « Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 11:46:39 AM »
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  • It's not a matter of "should" or "shouldn't."  It's a matter of the terms of his employment, which say he is entitled to three days off for the birth of a child.

    When you say "He no shows for the game," you are implying that he simply blew off a few days of work.  That isn't the case.  He informed his employer that he is taking days off as permitted under his contract.

    I'm not even going to get into the basic idea of a father being able to be with his new family, because it doesn't need to go that far.  His contract said he could take the days off, and he did.  End of story.


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    Should high paid pro atheletes get paternity leave ?
    « Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 11:53:55 AM »
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    "You can hire a nurse to take care of the baby if your wife needs help…Are you gonna sit there and look at your wife in the hospital bed for two days?"


    player takes leave

    This is my sentiment, I don't feel sorry for him at all. He has the rest of his life to be with his child and attend PTA meetings at the private school. Opening Day is gone and he will never get that back.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 12:00:52 PM »
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    "You can hire a nurse to take care of the baby if your wife needs help…Are you gonna sit there and look at your wife in the hospital bed for two days?"


    player takes leave

    This is my sentiment, I don't feel sorry for him at all. He has the rest of his life to be with his child and attend PTA meetings at the private school. Opening Day is gone and he will never get that back.


    First of all, I can't honestly believe you are comparing a baseball game to the birth of a child.  That is nonsense.

    Second, the player clearly felt his family was more important that missing a few days of work (a few days he was contractually permitted to take off).  What does it matter if he missed opening day?

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    « Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 06:54:14 PM »
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  • Does opening day games replace helping your wife in the days immediately following your child's birth?
    Does the amount of money one makes replace seeing ....
     

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    Week One Developmental Milestones

    By Vincent Iannelli, M.D. Updated December 12, 2007
    Developmental milestones in the first week of life? Most parents don't expect that their newborn baby is going to be able to do much besides eat, sleep, and cry. While it will be some time before you watch your baby's first steps and hear her first words, there are some important developmental milestones to look for, even at this age.




    In your baby's first week, you can usually expect her to:
    •Have a spontaneous or almost reflexive smile, which can occur as early as your baby's first few days of life and should be present by the time she is 10 weeks old. This is different than the social smile that occurs in response to something, like when you talk or sing to your baby. Babies develop the social smile a little later, when they are one to two months old.


    •Have equal movements of her arms and legs on both sides of her body. For example, she shouldn't move one arm or one leg much more than the other, which could be a sign of injury or weakness.

    •Lift her head briefly when she is on her tummy, although remember that newborn babies have poor head control and need their head supported at all times.


    •Focus briefly on objects that are near her face and up to about 12 to 15 inches away, which is about the distance of a ...feeding baby looking at her mother's (op add: or Father's) face. She can also see simple, high contrast patterns and her vision will quickly mature over the next few months.

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    « Reply #5 on: April 04, 2014, 06:57:56 PM »
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  • Sport.  The new opiate of the masses.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 04, 2014, 07:58:54 PM »
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  • There are many reasons why someone may not be able to take time off for the birth of their child, but if you can, you do. That's a no-brainer.

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    Should high paid pro atheletes get paternity leave ?
    « Reply #7 on: April 05, 2014, 05:41:10 AM »
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  • Quote from: crossbro
    Three days before a game one of the players becomes a daddy. He no shows for the game.


    I think this player (and new dad) had his head screwed on right. What's a baseball game (and I enjoy baseball) compared to the birth of a child? Have you considered how much happier his wife (and new mom) would be because he was there? I like his priorities.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 05, 2014, 12:01:15 PM »
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    Three days before a game one of the players becomes a daddy. He no shows for the game.


    I think this player (and new dad) had his head screwed on right. What's a baseball game (and I enjoy baseball) compared to the birth of a child? Have you considered how much happier his wife (and new mom) would be because he was there? I like his priorities.


    Me too.

    I don't think people who have been not blessed by the graces of matrimony or it's fruits (children) can always understand the importance of birth.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 06, 2014, 06:47:44 PM »
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  • If it was just 3 days and was permitted by his contract, then I have no problem with it.

    But men using the FMLA to take off WEEKS irks me to the Nth degree (barring special circuмstances).  This is more of the blurring of the sexes, and effeminization & fαɢɢօtization of modern men.

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    « Reply #10 on: April 06, 2014, 07:24:25 PM »
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    But men using the FMLA to take off WEEKS irks me to the Nth degree (barring special circuмstances).  This is more of the blurring of the sexes, and effeminization & fαɢɢօtization of modern men.


    If you're strictly talking about a wealthy person, I'd agree with you. But, if a husband can't afford or doesn't have anyone else to help his wife in at least the first 2 weeks (possibly more for a c-sec), he should be home with her. Ideally, they'd have someone else to help so that he could return to work, but if not, he shouldn't be looked down on for taking care of his wife and newborn. If he isn't wealthy, I'm sure he'll be back to work just as soon as he can -- usually sooner than the couple would like.
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    « Reply #11 on: April 06, 2014, 07:30:01 PM »
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  • Carl Ripken who played over 2100 consecutive games should slap this pansys face- missing opening day over a baby, indeed !!!

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    « Reply #12 on: April 06, 2014, 07:38:53 PM »
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  • My question: Would they have let him play on opening day without having been at practice that day, or the day before, or the day before that?
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    « Reply #13 on: April 06, 2014, 07:42:14 PM »
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    My question: Would they have let him play on opening day without having been at practice that day, or the day before, or the day before that?


    Of course, we are not talking about little league here, the guy has a contract for almost 6 million dollars.

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    « Reply #14 on: April 06, 2014, 09:27:35 PM »
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  • I was present for the birth of every one of my children.  I owned the company, so there was no one who could tell me I could not be.  I made sure that the male employees who worked for me could be present for the birth of their children.  

    The suggestion that work, especially work so irrelevant and pointless as professional sports, should get in the way of this is simply stupid.  Are you married, Corssbro?  Any children yet?  If not, please don't lecture those of us who are about taking care of our families.  And if so, literally for God's sake get your priorities straight.
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