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Offline Matto

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Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2017, 07:29:26 PM »
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  • I don't see how our system of medicine is sustainable. With more and more people getting older and living longer and having fewer children to support them and with most old people getting medical care for free or highly subsidized by the government and with all poor people also getting free health care paid for by the government and with doctors making two hundred thousand dollars a year and nurses making seventy thousand dollars a year and with countless medical secretaries and other workers making so much money, I don't see how it all could last. I see no other future except for a complete government take over of the entire industry and cutting the pay for doctors and nurses significantly together with massive forced euthanasia of the elderly in poor health.
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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #16 on: March 30, 2017, 07:34:28 PM »
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  • I don't see how our system of medicine is sustainable. With more and more people getting older and living longer and having fewer children to support them and with most old people getting medical care for free or highly subsidized by the government and with all poor people also getting free health care paid for by the government and with doctors making two hundred thousand dollars a year and nurses making seventy thousand dollars a year and with countless medical secretaries and other workers making so much money, I don't see how it all could last. I see no other future except for a complete government take over of the entire industry and cutting the pay for doctors and nurses significantly together with massive forced euthanasia.
    I had the exact same thought.
    I say "had" because i feel the only solution (which few are talking about) is "making" everyone have an insurance policy. It doesn't have to cover everything but you should have some kind of catastrophic coverage at least. If everyone had ins. the rate would go down to a rate that everyone could afford. 2% of one's income is not a ridiculous rate. 
    i dont know how you would mandate it w/ o--
    well, anyway, i also think that car insurance companies should be made to give people a discount if they dont have an accident in a certain period of time, but many of them don't. They are greedy, which is why we need at least SOME intervention from the govt. If we didn't have some regulations, they would run over us citizens..
    i dont like anything being mandated by the govt so i feel uneasy about this solution but i dont see any other way. If a person could go, say, 20 yrs w/o any health issues... no absessed teeth or whatever, then i would say it shouldn't be mandated. And if the costs are too high, it should not be mandated for certain people.. but .. well, whatever..    


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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #17 on: March 30, 2017, 07:57:51 PM »
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  • I see no other future except for a complete government take over of the entire industry and cutting the pay for doctors and nurses significantly together with massive forced euthanasia of the elderly in poor health.
    I just wanted to point out that when I said I saw no other future . . . I was not saying I wanted this to happen, but just that I expect this to happen. I do not desire complete government control of medicine and mass forced euthanasia, but it what I expect to happen.
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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #18 on: April 02, 2017, 08:41:43 AM »
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  • Forcing people to pay premiums for their own health insurance is tyrannical; forcing people to pay for others' health care is part of socialism. Both are condemned by the Church.
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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #19 on: April 02, 2017, 08:51:17 AM »
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  • If you're going to make health insurance mandatory you might as well have public (single payer) healthcare. There's at least a semblance of accountability then.


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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #20 on: April 03, 2017, 07:06:39 PM »
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  • Forcing people to pay premiums for their own health insurance is tyrannical; forcing people to pay for others' health care is part of socialism. Both are condemned by the Church.
    well, if they have no $$ i would agree
    Didn't you mean HIGH premiums? (not just premiums, but unaffordable ones??)

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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #21 on: April 03, 2017, 07:07:22 PM »
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  • If you're going to make health insurance mandatory you might as well have public (single payer) healthcare. There's at least a semblance of accountability then.
    not true
    we are sick of big govt
    I dont think we should have mandatory healthcare that covers everything... justcatastorophies

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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #22 on: April 05, 2017, 04:05:38 PM »
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  • not true
    we are sick of big govt
    I dont think we should have mandatory healthcare that covers everything... justcatastorophies
    Graham is absolutely correct. If roads, schools, etc. are mandatory for everyone to pay into to, then you must apply the same to a single payer healthcare system.


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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #23 on: April 05, 2017, 04:09:18 PM »
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  • I personally question the concept of insurance in general even within private companies.

    Doesn't it discourage charity?

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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #24 on: April 05, 2017, 05:35:00 PM »
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  • well, if they have no $$ i would agree
    Didn't you mean HIGH premiums? (not just premiums, but unaffordable ones??)

    Today, I don't think there is such a thing anymore. It's become the exorbitant equivalent of storing tons of grain, as condemned in the Bible.
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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #25 on: April 06, 2017, 07:11:40 PM »
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  • Graham is absolutely correct. If roads, schools, etc. are mandatory for everyone to pay into to, then you must apply the same to a single payer healthcare system.
    i am not for single payer
    I am just for everyone being insured to a limited extent, so that if some catastrophe happens, other people are not bankrupt. I see the Rs are making a separate pool for those with cancer and HIV and i forget the other thing
    i dont know how that will work. I wish they would EXPLAIN things better and go into detail. Why do they NOT?
    that is what disturbs me, the fact that they seem to be keeping a lot of info about this healthcare debacle to themselves... Has anyone heard of a place on line where we can read their proposals?
    i haven't.. tho i have to admit haven't been watching news 1/2 as much as before (last few days haven't been able to)    


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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #26 on: April 06, 2017, 07:13:11 PM »
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  • I personally question the concept of insurance in general even within private companies.

    Doesn't it discourage charity?
    myself
    i dont see a lot of charity these days
    i mean if people can't even be civil to those in their immediate circuмstances, i fail to see how t hey are being generous and loving and compassionate vis a vis some charitable organization or another

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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #27 on: April 06, 2017, 07:15:12 PM »
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  • Today, I don't think there is such a thing anymore. It's become the exorbitant equivalent of storing tons of grain, as condemned in the Bible.
    i dont get the tons of grain analogy
    but in any case, part of the problem is that not enough people are in the pools. I dont see why everyone should not pay some (hopefully small) fee for health insurance. I do believe low-income workers should be able to use their tax money for that but on the other hand.. I don't get that plan b/c they already either dont pay taxes or get a refund..
    so many things We the People do not get vis a vis this healthcare reform stuff

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    Re: Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
    « Reply #28 on: April 06, 2017, 07:26:19 PM »
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  • i dont get the tons of grain analogy
    but in any case, part of the problem is that not enough people are in the pools. I dont see why everyone should not pay some (hopefully small) fee for health insurance. I do believe low-income workers should be able to use their tax money for that but on the other hand.. I don't get that plan b/c they already either dont pay taxes or get a refund..
    so many things We the People do not get vis a vis this healthcare reform stuff

    Look at the "Parable of the Rich Fool" in the Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible, at this link:

    http://biblehub.com/drb/luke/12.htm
    "there can be no holiness where there is disagreement with the pope" - Pope St. Pius X

    Today, only Catholics holding the sedevacantist position are free from the anguish entailed by this truth.