Author Topic: September 11, 2001 (Read 5746 times)

Loriann · « **Reply #15 on:** September 11, 2012, 12:10:27 PM »

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It is interesting to hear the many different conspiracy theories

I've grown to call them cajoling fantasies instead. They are only shared by like minded people who harbour the very same distrust or angst who gather around in hermetic and self-validating communities such as this forum.

The left blaming the neocons and the right, pinning it on the fabled NWO. You add in the survivalist market into the mix which racks in the cash by scaring people and you have a hefty amount of confusion and disinformation.

The people who see conspiracy see it in everything, everywhere.

Belloc · « **Reply #16 on:** September 11, 2012, 12:12:46 PM »

Vandalar, you must understand, Loriann, will go into massive spin mode and will ignore any inclinations, gut feelings and go with whatever Govt fed information, directly or via their surrogates, is out there.......Vandalar accepts what he is told, exactly as told and will fill his posts with high IQ sounding info, but at the end of the day, it is all media/govt ag-prop....perhaps, he is in that line or a useful prop for them....

Notice, too, he comes out of the woodwork, sometimes days w/o posting, to debunk and deride any serious discussions and overwhelming questions out there about WWII, 9/11 or other controversial issues.......

Note how he laughs off the NWO, when some within the echelons themselves call for it or similar constructs, the NWO leading of course to the antichrist system, noted by Fr. Kramer and many others....likely, Vandalar will stil lbe here posting on a forum he/she derides when the antichrist system is fully up and operational, telling us all there is nothing to see and said Antichrist is not saying/doing what he is in fact doing......

He believes, blindly, what he is told to beleive, wrapped in smart soundnig, but often hollow reasoning......sounds good, looks really cool and official, but smacks of the impossible and unlikely........

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #17 on:** September 11, 2012, 12:15:39 PM »

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I've grown to call them cajoling fantasies instead. They are only shared by like minded people who harbour the very same distrust or angst who gather around in hermetic and self-validating communities such as this forum.

Ok, and aren't you the same person who promotes evolution and vaccines?

You're an ignorant government shill, Vandaler. You don't belong on a Traditional Catholic forum because you're not a Traditional Catholic, you're just here to mock our beliefs about the NWO.

Belloc · « **Reply #18 on:** September 11, 2012, 12:16:08 PM »

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I don't know and I no longer care to put any effort into the question.

The solution to the problem is simple. Stop supporting Zionism. Stop importing aliens into the country.

part of it, true, stop supporting Dems, repubs and the whole NWO apparatus whenever and where ever possible.....

How does retreating into a cave stop it all?

Pray, go around and do things that dont computer to them-start a garden, learn to grow your own food, yes,stock up here and there, emergencies do come up regardless of origin. Push from the outside and make a 1000 different cuts to the beast. Network with others to shre the burden....study.listen and go with what often your conscience is telling you, formed by Fide....be a book, CD, VDV junkie for the Truth and the Fide......I have 100's of Catholic talks in the car at any given time, often listen to them to and from my Slave Wager Earner job.....

you can NEVER affect the Dems and Repubs, lets stop thinking we can or some pure Phoenix (Palin, Ryan) will emerge and that includes false hope, yr after yr, in the "Ron Paul Revolution", that is an empty hope destined to keep you voting GOp and hoping for a mainstream political solution......

Belloc · « **Reply #19 on:** September 11, 2012, 12:17:03 PM »

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It is interesting to hear the many different conspiracy theoriest.

more like Conspiracy Facts.....though yes, there are many that dont add up, lack any substance or proof and some flat out kooky....

lefebvre_fan · « **Reply #20 on:** September 11, 2012, 12:28:54 PM »

Regardless of the truth or falsity of any one particular conspiracy theory, there can be no doubt about the existence of one conspiracy in particular: that of Satan and his followers against the Church. And there can also be no doubt that the chief human agents of Satan are the Jєωs, the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. Therefore, it helps to be aware, and keep an eye on the signs of the times, lest we be tricked into becoming tools of the Devil.

Vandaler · « **Reply #21 on:** September 11, 2012, 01:52:39 PM »

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Notice, too, he comes out of the woodwork, sometimes days w/o posting, to debunk and deride any serious discussions and overwhelming questions out there about WWII, 9/11 or other controversial issues.

True, this Forum only serves as skeet shooting for me. For the rest, I appreciate the kind words.

I deride serious discussions? If you really know me as you claim, I suspect it would be you that would decline a serious discussion on the matter of 9/11.

You want to convince yourself that cathinfo is dead wrong on worldly affairs? Take a stroll in the old posts and read what's "predicted" and you will find that it's in fact a digital monument devoted to error.

Belloc · « **Reply #22 on:** September 11, 2012, 01:54:31 PM »

best response to the Govt ag-prop, Vandaler

others, respond at your own peril and wasted time.....

Vandaler · « **Reply #23 on:** September 11, 2012, 01:56:17 PM »

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best response to the Govt ag-prop, Vandaler

others, respond at your own peril and wasted time.....

Just saying, I'm not the one to shy away from substance. Which again, makes me right.

lefebvre_fan · « **Reply #24 on:** September 11, 2012, 02:40:45 PM »

Oh, Vandaler, quit giving us Canadians a bad name! There's already enough of us who do that as it is.

Belloc · « **Reply #25 on:** September 11, 2012, 03:07:58 PM »

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best response to the Govt ag-prop, Vandaler

others, respond at your own peril and wasted time.....

Just saying, I'm not the one to shy away from substance. Which again, makes me right.

I dont shy from what I feel is substance, hence by your standards, right........and you wrong on the topic of thread ........

nadieimportante · « **Reply #26 on:** September 11, 2012, 03:17:37 PM »

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I have been hearing many different theories regarding the attacks of 9/11. What is your opinion? I have even heard folks deny it. I watch television, and lost a femily friend in Manhattan. I believe the attacks were terrorist in nature.

What do you believe?

Too many oddities in the event for anyone who knows anything about building construction. Those buildings were not brought down by the two planes, and all the news media explanations have not changed my view. As to who did it? Why should we believe the media on that part, when the part that can be easily explained, how the buildings fell, is full of holes? There's no way to know in this world, who did it, ones theory is as good/bad as another.

see: http://drjudywood.com/towers/

Vandaler · « **Reply #27 on:** September 11, 2012, 04:40:17 PM »

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Oh, Vandaler, quit giving us Canadians a bad name! There's already enough of us who do that as it is.

good one.

lefebvre_fan · « **Reply #28 on:** September 11, 2012, 04:40:44 PM »

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I have been hearing many different theories regarding the attacks of 9/11. What is your opinion? I have even heard folks deny it. I watch television, and lost a femily friend in Manhattan. I believe the attacks were terrorist in nature.

What do you believe?

Too many oddities in the event for anyone who knows anything about building construction. Those buildings were not brought down by the two planes, and all the news media explanations have not changed my view. As to who did it? Why should we believe the media on that part, when the part that can be easily explained, how the buildings fell, is full of holes? There's no way to know in this world, who did it, ones theory is as good/bad as another.

see: http://drjudywood.com/towers/

True. Regardless of which particular theory or theories one holds, no rational person (unless they have a vested interest) still believes that it was the planes alone that brought down the twin towers, or that WTC7 collapsed due to structural damage caused by falling debris. It's just insulting that we were ever expected to believe such nonsense, but of course most people still do, either because they can't be bothered to investigate the claims for themselves, or (more likely) they don't want to consider the horrible alternative to the official story, so they're more than happy to just go along with the government/media version.

Vandaler · « **Reply #29 on:** September 11, 2012, 04:42:49 PM »

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I dont shy from what I feel is substance...

I've yet read anything of substance from you directed towards me. The only substance you have had so far, is that colored substance your trying to paint me in.

I'll respond in a civilized way to anything you have to contribute though.