Author Topic: Sedevacantist MelFan (Read 4248 times)

s2srea · « **on:** September 04, 2011, 10:00:03 AM »

Okay everyone (including you SedeMelFan),

I was reading the posts yesterday, and though I think GV had WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much to drink before coming on here last night and fitting the fighting irish ideal, I agreed with much of what he said. But that's not the point (I just had to sneek MY opinion in there heh heh).

Anyways. As to SedeMelFan- Dude- you come out of now where, say you've been reading this forum for a long time, make a screen name of an Actor you seem to hold HIGH regard for, you post his dad's website on your first topic of discussion, a topic created by YOU, then ask for, continuously, prayers for Mel Gibson
- oh he's a sede(so he's holy apparently?)
- oh his dad's a sede (by the way here's his website)
- oh I'm going to make a screen name not after a saint, but MEL! YAY :rahrah: (he's so saintly you know)
- oh he was set up- oh he was chosen by God to do the Passion
- oh that brought people to tradition (I find as BS, but I may be wrong) (as if God wouldn't choose to restore the faith in people through someone a 'bit' more noble)
- oh, apparently he had no free will, and didn't 'mean' to leave his wife and children and run of with a Russian whore
-Oh Gregory I said something against GV, THANK GOD THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ACT LIKE CATHOLICS ON THIS BOARD (ya screw you)
- oh, I'm a sede, and while I can't justify a darn thing the Pope has done, this man is on a moral level with the saints! WTF?

So, here's the big question (apart from the one in the prior), what is your agenda? If you don't have one, please explain to all why we should think you don't have an agenda. Honestly, and I don't think I speak for myself only, this is all a little strange.

s2srea · « **Reply #1 on:** September 04, 2011, 10:28:22 AM »

Quote from: s2srea

Honestly, and I don't think I speak for myself only, this is all a little strange.

To expand on why this is strange... When a new member comes on this forum, and (as you said) mentioned they'd been reading posts for a while, they usually go into a topic that has been already started, because they wanted to add their opinion.

You, on the other hand, join yesterday, and had made no other posts (that I can tell) other than those in relation to Mel Gibson. Actually, if I'm not mistaken, your first act as a new member here was to create the thread, "PRAY FOR MEL GIBSON", Subtitled, "PRAY FOR MEL GIBSON".

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 04, 2011, 10:32:03 AM »

Airing grievances much, s2rea?

Why all the hate on the sedes? Whats your deal man. Let the man post whatever he wants...its within forum rules and he doesn't seem to be spamming.

I do wonder whence he came from though...

s2srea · « **Reply #3 on:** September 04, 2011, 10:44:26 AM »

Quote from: PartyIsOver221

Airing grievances much, s2rea?

Why all the hate on the sedes? Whats your deal man. Let the man post whatever he wants...its within forum rules and he doesn't seem to be spamming.

I do wonder whence he came from though...

Are you kidding me? "Why the hate on Sedes?" Apparently you missed my whole point. Never once have I said I have anything against sede's. Read it again, if you want to post something of substance, please feel free to do so. Please don't put words in my mouth. You seem to have this notion that anyone who isn't a sede, is against them. You are a pick and choose reader. You only point out when I have something 'not-entirely-positive" to say about sedes, when in fact I am pointing out the stupidity of one in particular; I would do the same for both sedes and non-sedes alike.

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 04, 2011, 11:02:15 AM »

Quote from: s2srea

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Anyways. As to SedeMelFan- Dude- you come out of now where, say you've been reading this forum for a long time, make a screen name of an Actor you seem to hold HIGH regard for, you post his dad's website on your first topic of discussion, a topic created by YOU, then ask for, continuously, prayers for Mel Gibson
- oh he's a sede (so he's holy apparently?)
- oh his dad's a sede (by the way here's his website)
- oh I'm going to make a screen name not after a saint, but MEL! YAY :rahrah: (he's so saintly you know)
- oh he was set up- oh he was chosen by God to do the Passion
- oh that brought people to tradition (I find as BS, but I may be wrong) (as if God wouldn't choose to restore the faith in people through someone a 'bit' more noble)
- oh, apparently he had no free will, and didn't 'mean' to leave his wife and children and run of with a Russian whore
-Oh Gregory I said something against GV, THANK GOD THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ACT LIKE CATHOLICS ON THIS BOARD (ya screw you)
- oh, I'm a sede, and while I can't justify a darn thing the Pope has done, this man is on a moral level with the saints! WTF?

So, here's the big question (apart from the one in the prior), what is your agenda? If you don't have one, please explain to all why we should think you don't have an agenda. Honestly, and I don't think I speak for myself only, this is all a little strange.

3 times , sede, okay. It was highly salient to your post, for any casual reader to see. I did not pick and choose, you gave me what to read. And I'm reading in between the lines here.

Expose yourself, s2rea. Whats your point.

s2srea · « **Reply #5 on:** September 04, 2011, 11:09:11 AM »

Okay, let me 'expose' myself. My point was that he was attempting to win over the 'sede camp' by feeding into the fact that the Gibson's are sede. Being sede shouldn't be a reason for people agreeing with someone and what they've done. But you, in your simplicity, were easily won over, as you usually are on anyone who is sede. Unlike others here, you place people into camps- sede or non-sede. Whoever is on your 'side' is the good guy, hence your infatuation with Raoul; who ever is not clearly a sede (like myself) you have no problem being critical of. Its very clear.

I used the term sede to expose the man's attempt to complete his agenda. It worked on you, as I expected when reading his post.

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 04, 2011, 11:26:56 AM »

s2rea, not at all. He didnt "win" me over because he was a sede or claimed Mel was a sede. Years ago I have done the whole background on Mel and Hutton, and saw ooh they were sedevacantist, then I learned more, and saw the extremism in Hutton, and went oooh that's not cool.

Then I saw Mel and his ABC interview saying there are many paths to God, and Catholicism was just one of them. Oooh, thats mega not cool. Not cool, Mel. Still with me, s2rea?

So I have a fair understanding of who the Gibsons are (and not the Gibson, as in the movie "Hackers" ).

So yes, I will pray for Mel because I do think he needs our prayers, he's the closest in Hollywood to anyone that could be a traditional Catholic. And yes, God bless him for making the "Passion". Sure it was bloody, but so was the ACTUAL CRUCIFIXION of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It was not , by any means, on the level of some Eli Roth violent pornographic-laden masochistic movie. It was simply showing the suffering of Christ, and in a tasteful manner as tasteful as it could be possible made cinematically.

s2srea · « **Reply #7 on:** September 04, 2011, 11:31:50 AM »

Okay Party- thanks for clarifying. For the record, I wasn't against you praying for anyone. I thought it was weird the way he came on here. If its just me who feels this way, then okay, I'll stick my foot in my mouth. Please know I have nothing against sede's as a whole. If my post made it seem that way, then I'm sorry.

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 04, 2011, 11:55:13 AM »

I recant my insinuation that you were actively hostile towards sedes in general. No hard feelings. Thanks for clarifying too.

s2srea · « **Reply #9 on:** September 04, 2011, 12:12:30 PM »

Likewise my good man! :cheers:

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #10 on:** September 04, 2011, 02:26:22 PM »

He's running the same Mel campaign over at FE...this guy has tme.

Matthew · « **Reply #11 on:** September 04, 2011, 03:57:02 PM »

While Gladius' posts might have taken it too far, I can understand Eamon's outburst to some extent.

The idea that Mel is better for Catholicism than ANYONE on CathInfo (yes, that includes just about anyone!) makes my blood boil as well, for the injustice of it all.

Mel has never one publicly recanted of his older Lethal Weapon (and other) worldly, violent, Rated X (by 1950's standards) movies. You know, Rated R -- movies which show characters engaged in carnal intercourse, for example -- used to be considered Rated X. Today, they show such things on TV after 10 PM (or on some cable channels round-the-clock).

Like Gladius says, he's basically a porn star. HOW MANY CATHOLICS are ecstatic to have a porn star among the Traditional Catholic fold? I think we're getting a bit desperate!

Most of his movies are ANYTHING BUT Catholic. One Passion of the Christ doesn't make up for all the irreparable harm done by all the other movies he's made.

I remember when The Passion came out, people were saying, "This is Mel's atonement..." etc. BUT NO IT'S NOT -- where is the PUBLIC retraction from Mel? To get absolution or forgiveness, Mel would have to PUBLICLY distance himself from those movies, and take all the proceeds from them and donate it to the Church or something.

As far as I can tell, he hasn't done so. Until he does, he's a great public sinner and a grave scandal to Catholicism. And he is NOT doing Tradition any favors by being "in our camp".

Matthew

ora pro me · « **Reply #12 on:** September 04, 2011, 05:39:36 PM »

It looks to me like MelFan is just a friend or a fan of Mr. Gibson's and that he is here to ask for prayers for his friend from his fellow Catholics.

Simple enough for me and the request is simple enough for any of us to fulfill because we're praying anyway. Why not include the intentions that MelFan asks us to pray for in the prayers that we are hopefully praying throughout the day?

ora pro me · « **Reply #13 on:** September 04, 2011, 05:47:34 PM »

I have something also to add about prayer. If you have consecrated yourself to Jesus through Mary as in St. Louis Marie de Montfort's way of True Devotion to Jesus through Mary, you are already giving all of your prayers, works, indulgences etc. to Jesus through Mary, knowing that Mary will know better than you how to use your good works, prayers etc.

We can still pray for all of our intentions, and all those for whom we want to pray and all those who have asked for our prayers, but we know that Our Lady will know best where the feeble graces that our poor prayers may merit will be best used and she will do with them (our merits) as She so wisely will see fit.

Oh, but there's more. If you have the book on your shelf and would like to know more, read the book. If you don't have the book, I'll be back later. I've got to go enjoy some time with my family on this beautiful Sunday.

Have a blessed Sunday and may you all find some of the peace today that is so abundant in our precious Catholic Faith.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #14 on:** September 05, 2011, 02:19:34 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

I think GV had WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much to drink before coming on here last night and fitting the fighting irish ideal, I agreed with much of what he said.

You are right, s2s. Thank you.