Were I Scottish, I'd vote no. It's far too convoluted of a thing to even consider.

Since my knowledge of Scotland, its relationship to England, and the political and economic situation there is limited to what the U.S. media says, I have no idea.

According to media sources, I've heard that Scotland is economically poor, receive much more in government welfare than it pays in taxes, and is more liberal than the rest of Great Britain.  If what they say is actually true, then the Scots would be foolish to vote for independence, though in doing so, perhaps the rest of Britain could find the political will to stop the Islamic invasion of the British Isles.  On the other hand, if what they say is not true, then independence could be good for Scotland.

Any British subjects on CathInfo willing to tell us what the situation really is there?

I have ignored it mostly because it's a referendum.

People should not be voting for either their government or their leaders.

I hope that Scotland does become independent, but I don't know what sort of economic plan they have. I think that some of their retirements and other benefits come from England. OTOH, maybe they'll be able to keep the oil revenues. I have a Scottish ancestor who was kicked out of Scotland for fighting for the Jacobite rebellion (tried and found guilty of treason, sold as a slave in the U.S. colonies, and told to never go back to Scotland). I would think that he would have been happy about the idea of independence. But will the new government, if there is one, be any more likely to promote Christian morality than the current one? Probably not. At least two or three of the recent liberal Prime Ministers in London have been of Scottish background. Sadly.

I know little or nothing about Scotland but I do wonder if the Independence side won would Scotland join the euro and then weaken the UK's resistance to having the euro.

I don't see how that would weaken England's resistance to the Euro, since Scotland wouldn't be part of the UK any more.  Besides, the only party that would profit from this political disaster for Cameron's government is UKIP, a party that wants to see the UK leave the EU altogether.

Would it bring in the UK to the euro?

It would merely bring Scotland to the Euro.

Judging by the media I don't think the Independence campaign will win but then again when has the media told the truth.

The major news media organs don't want Scotland to win, so that's something to consider.

In any case, the status of the affair right now, as I have most recently read, is that 96% of those 16 and older are registered to vote, that 16-17% are still undecided on how they will vote, and that amongst those who are decided the unionists have a slight lead. But beyond that, apparently the majority of the undecided seem to be leaning in favour of independence.  So it seems it could actually go either way.

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Anytime anyone has an opportunity to remove themselves from beneath the heel of the "Windsors", they should take it.

It has already been stated unequivocally that if Scotland becomes independent, Elizabeth II will remain Queen of Scots.  It would be the same arrangement Canada, Australia, and the other Commonwealth Realms have; an independent government under the same sovereign.

If they were to become a republic, there would be an opening for the Stuart heir to seize what is his. Prince Joseph Wenzel of Liechtenstein attended school in England. He must be aware that Scotland and England are his by right upon the death of his relative, Franz, Duke of Bavaria.  It all sounds so improbable, I know, but just consider that the independence of Scotland seemed utterly improbable only a short time ago as well.  Certainly the Stuart restoration seems far less improbable, by that rationale, than it did prior to anybody considering that the Scots would ever leave the UK.

I'm sorry, but the chances of this happening are so remote it borders on ridiculous to even mention it.  If Scotland at some point becomes a republic, it will not be because they want a different monarch, it will because they want no monarch.  Has there been a single case in the last 100 years when a republic has become a monarchy?

Furthermore, haven't the Jacobite heirs formally renounced their claim to the throne since at least the early 19th century?  I believe the papacy even stopped recognizing their claim at about the same time.

I, for one, am longing for Scotland to vote Yes to independence.  The disgraceful threats that are now being thrown about by the Westminster establishment amount to - vote No or we'll bankrupt you.  And yet that same Westminster establishment doesn't give a fig for Scotland.

Scotland is more than capable of thriving as an independent nation, just as capable as Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Latvia, Lithuania, the Czech republic etc etc etc.  Whether or not the Scots will fall for the propaganda campaign that is being waged against them with the full and united power of the entire mainstream media remains to be seen.

As for the shape and form that an independent Scotland would take - it certainly can't be any worse than the present situation, which entirely consists of being an irrelevant appendage, not to England, but to London, as is the rest of the UK.  

The Union has had its day and good riddance.  While the British empire was at its height, one third of children in Glasgow were dying of poverty. The break up of the (dis)United Kingdom is long overdue and this will be a wonderful opportunity to get rid of the ghastly Union Jack flag, a symbol of empire, colonialism and rampant exploitation.  As you know it is made up of four flags.  Take out the blue (from the Scottish saltire) and what is left?  

Having said that, I am in no way confident of a Yes vote next Thursday.

PS.  The film Braveheart was rubbish.  William Wallace was a Lowlander and would never, ever, have worn a kilt.  All that blue paint was a joke, since the Picts, who did paint themselves blue lived about 1000 years before.  And William Wallace was a minor nobleman, had been educated in Italy, and would have spoken several languages.  He would also have combed his hair.