Author Topic: School Dilemma?-need advise (Read 6409 times)

MyrnaM · « **Reply #30 on:** May 18, 2010, 10:41:30 AM »

Quote from: Trinity

I'm going to stick my foot in it. Remember the 15 nuns our poor bishop had to deal with? They went NO from within a Trad Church. You really need a good shepherd guarding against such things.

Anyone can fall from grace, even a pope, even someone handpicked by God Himself, i.e. Judas.

Trinity · « **Reply #31 on:** May 18, 2010, 11:15:47 AM »

And when they do, let's hope there is someone there like Bishop Mark to mend the damage. He had to correct all the error those 15 inculcated into the children. When we asked the same question (basically) that CathMom is asking, he told us what age there might be a problem and what the problem would be.

Alexandria · « **Reply #32 on:** May 18, 2010, 11:53:16 AM »

The 15 nuns leaving could have been stopped if it had been nipped in the bud. That they were allowed to stay and then tried to poison everyone else is a shame. Some of them were "gone" at least fifteen years before they actually left. :sad:

Trinity · « **Reply #33 on:** May 18, 2010, 12:31:05 PM »

Bishop Mark is long suffering. I know of one parishoner who consistently attacks him and is still in the church. But I know of another who caused enough trouble to get booted. He does protect the sheep. I've seen him in action.

Alexandria · « **Reply #34 on:** May 18, 2010, 12:35:37 PM »

Don't misunderstand me Trinity. I meant nothing against the Bishop.

Let me clarify - if these sisters had any integrity, they would have left long ago - not all of them (for there are many good sisters that left) - just the core group. That's what I meant. Nothing against the Bishop at all.

Trinity · « **Reply #35 on:** May 18, 2010, 12:40:54 PM »

No problem, Alexandria. Just wanted CathMom37 to know there are some out there she can trust. Can't really convey my own sense of safety with him except by telling these little things. The 15 nuns was such a satanic thing and I have no doubt that the dirty dog is infiltrating everywhere he can. Only thing we can do is hide out with a good shepherd.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #36 on:** May 18, 2010, 02:57:27 PM »

CathMom -

First, I wouldn't worry much about your kids. If what you're doing is working for your family, don't hesistate to just keep doing it. While in theory I think it's good to support Trad schools, in practice, I've never seen one I'd feel 100% comfortable sending my kids to. The only ones I've heard about (through students, parents, etc) that wouldn't worry me about my kid's faith are quite below average in terms of education. Especially in a large family, there's nothing your kids need that you can't give them at home.

For example, if a better education for your high schoolers is something you're after, consider taking the money you would have spent on tuition and try finding a few private tutors in the subjects your kids are particularly proficient at or interested in. Or, maybe send them off to some classes at a local community college (or online if they're self-motivated). My thoughts are that when you send your teenager off "into the world", they know to expect people to be different than them and, in reality, tough issues like religion are not likely to arise. On the other hand, you send them to be with "peers" at the Trad school and they're more likely to not be on guard against worldly ideas. Plus, what they and those around them believe is "in the air" and can't just be ignored.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #37 on:** May 18, 2010, 03:07:16 PM »

Quote from: CathMom37

MaterDominici-maybe you are right on the word Modernism. I dont expect outright lies to be coming from these dear Sisters, but have seen what could amount to wishy-washy (which always reminds me of the N.O. branch) on things. To me, wishy-washy = Modernism. Maybe it is more a symptom
of Modernism than outright Modernism? What are your thoughts? (anybody?)

Unfortunately, modernism affects us all -- even those who know what it is and are against it. Maybe what you've seen is something you should discuss with the administration of the school. Perhaps whoever promoted these wishy-washy things are unaware of their sources or implications.

Where did the nuns come from? Under whom did they recieve training? You might have to determine if you believe the things you're seeing are signs of a bigger problems or simply errors that need correcting.

treadingwater · « **Reply #38 on:** May 18, 2010, 07:14:55 PM »

I am homeschooling my six young children, and I am constantly worrying about their education. Can I teach them all they need to know to survive in this world? Yes ! Will they be rocket scientists? probably not. Will they be self sufficient adults, with a strong belief in their faith, I think they will. We have such a short period of time to really make an impact on our children, I'm not willing to let strangers shape their minds and souls. I have to believe I'm teaching them all I can and that God will take care of the rest...

Alexandria · « **Reply #39 on:** May 18, 2010, 07:56:09 PM »

Treading Water

Rest assured that He WILL take care of the rest!

Elizabeth · « **Reply #40 on:** May 18, 2010, 11:23:37 PM »

I would not advise moving, leaving a good job in order for the kids to be formed by some good nuns.

Our family did so, and it didn't work out, the nuns left shortly after...

Why not use the extra money for an extended trip abroad? Now that's what I'd call an educational experience. That's what we should have done, gone to Spain for 4 months and used it as the theme for that year.

Matthew · « **Reply #41 on:** May 18, 2010, 11:43:53 PM »

Quote from: treadingwater

I am homeschooling my six young children, and I am constantly worrying about their education. Can I teach them all they need to know to survive in this world? Yes ! Will they be rocket scientists? probably not. Will they be self sufficient adults, with a strong belief in their faith, I think they will. We have such a short period of time to really make an impact on our children, I'm not willing to let strangers shape their minds and souls. I have to believe I'm teaching them all I can and that God will take care of the rest...

If you teach them a love of learning -- they will be set for life. They can always learn various specialties on their own, go to college, etc. and develop whatever talents God gave them, to form a future career.

How can a teacher make a child WANT to learn? That is the trick. That's something mothers might even have the advantage. It sheds a bit of light on the sublimity of the calling to motherhood. To form souls, to direct them from their earliest years.

Matthew

Vladimir · « **Reply #42 on:** May 19, 2010, 08:21:31 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: treadingwater
I am homeschooling my six young children, and I am constantly worrying about their education. Can I teach them all they need to know to survive in this world? Yes ! Will they be rocket scientists? probably not. Will they be self sufficient adults, with a strong belief in their faith, I think they will. We have such a short period of time to really make an impact on our children, I'm not willing to let strangers shape their minds and souls. I have to believe I'm teaching them all I can and that God will take care of the rest...

If you teach them a love of learning -- they will be set for life. They can always learn various specialties on their own, go to college, etc. and develop whatever talents God gave them, to form a future career.

How can a teacher make a child WANT to learn? That is the trick. That's something mothers might even have the advantage. It sheds a bit of light on the sublimity of the calling to motherhood. To form souls, to direct them from their earliest years.

Matthew

That is really true. Most (I would say over 70%) of what I've learned (aside from mathematics) I have learned outside of school. Especially in history, public schools really only cover the bare essentials, and they often gloss over important information and generalize whole areas of history, which gives a biased view of history.

CathMom37 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 19, 2010, 08:42:14 AM »

Gosh, so many good replies. I cant begin to reply to them all, but I assume that is true for everyone else in their posts as well?

MaterDominici- you will have to be patient with me. I am not so good at these boards and typing out exact details.
The nuns themselves I havent heard anything bad about, but it is the Church that they are under, that is my concern.
There are little things that I have seen, and albit little, is there anything 'little' about changes to our Mass, Sacraments and Traditions, you know? So that is the crux-the Mass the kids would attend does not fall in line with my standards (so I would naturally assume the Sisters would be teaching it as well). One side of me says "its not going to be perfect at this time in Church History, dont look a gift horse in the mouth". But then Dh asked me "So, if you send the kids, shouldnt we start going there? If the school is good enough for our kids, why wouldnt we start going to the Church?" (why does he have to be so logical anyways??) My answer would be a resounding No.
The gift horse, btw, isnt the school itself, but the Sisters and their influence. I am and can continue to teach by the grace of God. But there IS something wonderful about Sisters-these ones included. They are soo good with the children.

Elizabeth-we did decide to nix the Fl deal, so now it comes down to the school that is just beginning this year here, where we currently live.

Someone asked what I believe, maybe it would give better ideas for the situation. We are sede. But, what makes it 'worse' is that this school is sede too. Wishy-washy though.

Sigh.

Hey-on the up side to all this, dont these struggles make us all yearn for Heaven where there is no uncertainty or confusion?

Sigh. And so we wait....

Trinity · « **Reply #44 on:** May 19, 2010, 11:31:49 AM »

CathMom, is there no one you can trust. Personally I can't imagine a sede church which falls short of the faith. I mean keeping the faith is the whole idea behind it. Wish I knew more about this.