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Offline Miseremini

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Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
« on: April 18, 2019, 02:58:43 PM »
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  • LifeSite News is starting a petition against building parts of Notre Dame Cathedral
    according to "modern " principles

    https://mailchi.mp/lifesite/pope-francis-stop-appointment-of-unfaithfulabuse-scandal-bishop-to-dc-2669581?e=fe3635a0a6
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



    Offline songbird

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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #1 on: April 18, 2019, 04:01:59 PM »
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  • I do believe this is out of our hands.  The cathedral is owned by the state, am I right?  That is also how it went new order, owned by state.  And the new order serves the gov't.

    If you noticed, many faith-based churches, new order, took Grant $$$ for restoration.  I know this is state side, but I would guess, it is also happening in other countries.

    We don't have a say in it, is what I am thinking.  Look what happened to St. Mary's in Rhode Island.

    Once they have been taken over by new order, that is what you get.  Destruction.

    Isn't life site.news new order?


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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #2 on: April 18, 2019, 04:05:35 PM »
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  • We must pray Macron gets ousted before reconstruction gets underway. 

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #3 on: April 18, 2019, 04:54:36 PM »
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  • Well, I suspect it's in better hands owned by the state.  There's no doubt that the Novus Ordo would wish to modernize, whereas the State might be more interested in restoring it to its historical state.

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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #4 on: April 18, 2019, 05:10:15 PM »
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  • Well, I suspect it's in better hands owned by the state.  There's no doubt that the Novus Ordo would wish to modernize, whereas the State might be more interested in restoring it to its historical state.
    If it was Poland or Hungary or the like, yes. But sadly France, being the demonic socialist hellhole it is, decided they want to modernise the spire when they rebuild it.


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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #5 on: April 18, 2019, 05:34:49 PM »
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  • If it was Poland or Hungary or the like, yes. But sadly France, being the demonic socialist hellhole it is, decided they want to modernise the spire when they rebuild it.
    What would a "modernized" spire look like? Any guesses? 

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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #6 on: April 18, 2019, 05:41:07 PM »
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  • What would a "modernized" spire look like? Any guesses?
    No clue, they just asked architects to send in designs of a new spire "adapted to the techniques and the challenges of our era".

    Offline Miseremini

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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #7 on: April 18, 2019, 05:41:31 PM »
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  • I do believe this is out of our hands.  The cathedral is owned by the state, am I right?  That is also how it went new order, owned by state.  And the new order serves the gov't.

    I disagree.  If enough people sign/protest this modern plan, whoever has the final say  will have
    to realize if people don't want modern it's going to hurt them dollar wise.  They depend
    heavily on tourist $$$$'s, so strictly from tourist money lost they'll have to think long
    and hard about what actually brought the money to Paris before the fire.
    Follow the money!
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



    Offline songbird

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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #8 on: April 18, 2019, 06:01:45 PM »
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  • If I was to  tour Europe, France would be last on my list for all the Muslims that have taken on Europe.

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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #9 on: April 18, 2019, 11:04:41 PM »
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  • Do you think that the French government would allow them to build a 'modern' Notre Dame?

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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #10 on: April 18, 2019, 11:08:13 PM »
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  • Macron would probably put an obelisk in place of the spire


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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #11 on: April 18, 2019, 11:37:39 PM »
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  • Macron would probably put an obelisk in place of the spire
    I always associated obelisks with Freemasons, but does't St. Peter's Square have one?

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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #12 on: April 19, 2019, 04:55:44 AM »
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  • Does the government in France own any masques or ѕуηαgσgυєs?  The Catholic Church is a mess worldwide. 
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #13 on: April 19, 2019, 08:50:19 AM »
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  • Isn't life site.news new order?

    First of all, LifeSiteNews is a non-profit organization focusing on pro-life and Catholic issues, not a religious order or pseudo-religious order like SSPX, SSPV, FSSP, CMRI, etc. They are not "novus ordo" or Tridentine. The organization has zero priests, so they offer no Masses of any kind. They have zero chapels.

    The management and personnel of LifeSiteNews are at minimum very conservative Catholic. They are fellow Catholics. They are also very critical of Pope Francis.

    They do good work. Let's not exclude brave warriors from the fight or cause needless division in God's army. We certainly don't want to be schismatic like the Dimond brothers, by excommunicating those who aren't part of our favorite "group".
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    Re: Say No to building modern Notre Dame..Petition
    « Reply #14 on: April 19, 2019, 01:37:59 PM »
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  • Do you think that the French government would allow them to build a 'modern' Notre Dame?
    Since that building is under French government ownership, yes.  The French have historical societies and some perspective.  I agree with Laudislaus that the French government would likely do a better job of restoring Notre Dame Cathedral than the Novus Ordo leadership.