My point, Cletus, is that outside is outside. Extra ecclesiam, NULLA salus. Yes, the so-called Orthodox can, due to certain circumstances, be corporately re-vivified. It is true that this is not the case with Lutherans, etc. However, in 1000+ years, their hardened hearts have not softened, nor have they seen the light. Their leaders are just as much Masons, etc., as the men in the Novus, and have been for centuries. I realize there are no "guitar masses", etc., but offering the unspotted Lamb without permission - for 1000 years straight - is not exactly something for which one should be praised.
Hell is hell, and those who are there for eternity will not quibble about whether they were naturally decent or libertines in the extreme.