Author Topic: Russian DNA Discoveries - MIND BLOWING! (Read 1130 times)

St Jude Thaddeus · « **on:** November 24, 2009, 10:27:23 PM »

What is your purpose, sir, in baiting the forum members with these posts? Do you believe that we are woefully unaware of these gnostic and paganistic claims and that we need you to enlighten us? Do you enjoy the shock value of publishing things that would occur to no one else but yourself? As an adolescent I was fascinated by all of this drivel (in my day it was Chariots of the Gods) and I realize that we now have a new generation of "free-thinkers" and skeptics nurtured by the Davinci Code and its spinoffs but do you honestly expect to get a response to this on a Traditional Catholic forum?

You are obviously no longer a Roman Catholic, if you ever were. If you have no intention of returning to Holy Mother Church, then find another venue for your intellectual ramblings. If you do seriously desire to reunite yourself with the Church Jesus Christ Himself founded, and be able to meaningfully participate in this forum, then why don't you study the Catechism, the writings of the Saints, pray the Rosary, and assist exclusively at the Tridentine Mass? Perservere in those actions and you will see your faith grow and your doubts evaporate.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #1 on:** November 25, 2009, 12:11:55 AM »

If you have no intention of returning to Holy Mother Church, then find another venue for your intellectual ramblings.

They are anything but intellectual! :sheep:

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2009, 01:24:25 AM »

Good point! I used the term "intellectual" in an abstract way, as in "pertaining to the intellect." At least that was my intention. Next time I'll choose my words more carefully!

Alex · « **Reply #3 on:** November 25, 2009, 02:27:04 AM »

Quote from: St Jude Thaddeus

What is your purpose, sir, in baiting the forum members with these posts? Do you believe that we are woefully unaware of these gnostic and paganistic claims and that we need you to enlighten us? Do you enjoy the shock value of publishing things that would occur to no one else but yourself? As an adolescent I was fascinated by all of this drivel (in my day it was Chariots of the Gods) and I realize that we now have a new generation of "free-thinkers" and skeptics nurtured by the Davinci Code and its spinoffs but do you honestly expect to get a response to this on a Traditional Catholic forum?

You are obviously no longer a Roman Catholic, if you ever were. If you have no intention of returning to Holy Mother Church, then find another venue for your intellectual ramblings. If you do seriously desire to reunite yourself with the Church Jesus Christ Himself founded, and be able to meaningfully participate in this forum, then why don't you study the Catechism, the writings of the Saints, pray the Rosary, and assist exclusively at the Tridentine Mass? Perservere in those actions and you will see your faith grow and your doubts evaporate.

roscoe · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2009, 03:16:07 PM »

What makes Uriel think that the systems of science and the Church haven't already been merged?

Card Bellarmine would brand as heresy an idea that science is incompatable with Scripture and Tradition. So this has already been done although I am not surprised that Uriel( and his pals Classicom and Pope Augustine) hasn't figured it out.

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2009, 09:09:33 PM »

Quote from: Uriel

So, if supernatural powers are part of our genetic code then what do you fear? Or are you just too amazed that God made us ceatures also of 'magic'...not just flesh and soul?

This is NOT new age crap either. OMG do some research and study modern sciences and Quantum physics. The Church Fathers sure do not know everything nor does science. Truth can be found in the merging of both systems....

The Catholic Faith stands alone, Uriel. It has no need of science in order to express the Truth. Her teachings were true five hundred years ago, a thousand years ago, will be true tomorrow and a million years from now.

When scientific inquiry is done properly, it corroborates the teachings of the Church. One example is the Genesis account of an original human pair, Adam and Eve. Scientists have now "discovered" that yes, indeed, all living humans are descended from one male and one female. Another example would be the historical fact of the rule of Pontius Pilate. "Historians" since the early 1800's had denied that Pilate even existed, until a diver discovered a two-thousand year old Roman column off the Israeli coast with his name inscribed on it. There are many other examples too numerous to mention.

When trying to decide between two competing viewpoints, the Church's and that of "science," our default position is always to side with the Church. Why? Because the Church's knowledge comes through revelation from God Himself. Scientific knowledge, which proceeds from fallible human beings, cannot match the Word of God as revealed to Our Church Fathers and Saints.

Regarding "magic:" this is a practice that has been clearly condemned by the Church and Its Holy Scripture, both in the Old Testament and in the New. Again, why? Because magic is an attempt to thwart God's Will, to make things happen in a way pleasing to us and not God. A Christian has no need of spells and powers: he has only to seek the Will of God and try to obey It. If things don't work out the way he wants, then he says, "So be it," and rolls with the punches. Magic is an attempt to subvert all this and achieve an outcome which may be displeasing to God. When magic is apparently successful, it is only because a demonic hand is involved.

Our goal is not to become wise with the wisdom of this world, but to be wise in the eyes of God. God wants us to be simple, like little children, not scheming and plotting and using magical powers to get what we want, or trying to make ourselves more than what we really are.

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2009, 09:21:11 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

What makes Uriel think that the systems of science and the Church haven't already been merged?

Card Bellarmine would brand as heresy an idea that science is incompatable with Scripture and Tradition. So this has already been done although I am not surprised that Uriel( and his pals Classicom and Pope Augustine) hasn't figured it out.

Right! It was in monasteries after the collapse of the Roman Empire that the Church preserved the findings of the ancient Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians. It was in universities, founded, funded, and staffed by the Church, where the spirit of scientific inquiry was renewed in the Western World. It was only with the coming of the so-called "Enlightenment" and the Industrial Revolution that scientific study was taken out of the hands of the Church and put into those of men divorced from all governance other than their own reason. As a result, we still don't have a safe, practical, non-contaminating way to generate electricity on a large scale, but we do have bombs capable of extinguishing all life within a forty-mile radius. The whole last century-and-a-half of horrors and confusion could have been mostly avoided if the Church had been the guiding force behind the development of new technology and scientific research, instead of Freemasons and Big Money men.

roscoe · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2009, 11:41:55 PM »

It is also the Church that has discovered the calendar and musical system in use by all of civilised ( or proclaiming to be) man today. It often crosses my mind that there are hundreds of millions of people living in parts of the world today that are no more developed than they were 2-3 thousand yrs ago.

Unless I am mistaken, Judaics and Moors still base their calendars on the cycles of the moon.