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alaric · « **on:** September 17, 2014, 06:47:02 PM »

Russia, once the home and nucleus of USSR and communism, now leads the way in very traditional Catholic values and beliefs like pro-life, large families and anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ rights agenda.

Russia also doesn't hide it's special relationship and unique history with Christianity and the Orthodox Church either. Putin is openly friendly with the ROC.

What happened to all those prophecies from Fatima? Where are all these supposed "errors" that Russia was going to spread all over the Earth?

Why is Russia so pro-Christian and for traditional faith and values that America and the West once embraced? If Russia was never "consecrated" why is it doing a 180 on Christianity while America is on almost as anti-Christian as you can get these days?

Is Russia now leading the way for defending Christendom and Western civilization? What is going on in Russia?

From Russia the anti-family poison spread, and now from Russia comes the antidote

Twenty-five years ago, when the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was still holding its conventions in the Kremlin under the iconic hammer and sickle, no one would have dreamed what would happen there on September 10 and 11, 2014: Inside the Kremlin, the heart of Russia, a two-day international conference was held with the title “Large Families and the Future of Humanity” — pro-life, pro-family, aiming to protect the moral foundation of family and society.

Powerful, influential people were on the podium: Patriarch Cyril, primate of the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC), his foreign affairs representative Metropolitan Hilarion; the grand mufti and chief rabbi of the Russian Federation; Elena Mizulina, chair of the Russian parliament’s Federal Assembly of the Committee of Family, Women and Children, sponsor of the law on “protection of children from information negating traditional family values”; Oligarch Vladimir Yakunin, confidant of President Putin, and his wife Natalia Yakunina, both chair of the Andrew the First Called foundation, who is the official organizer of the Forum; Konstantin Malofeev, chair of the St. Basil the Great foundation. Sharing the podium were high-level politicians from Hungary, France, Nigeria, Greece and the Philippines. President Putin sent a greeting, and Archbishop Paglia, head of the Pontifical Council for the Family, sent a video message. Attendees included more than a thousand people from all parts of Russia and from 50 countries around the world — many were key players in the current culture wars.

The people in the hall certainly don’t agree on Putin’s behavior in the Ukraine conflict. They do agree, however, that we are in a global anthropological crisis that is attacking the nature and identity of the human person, and they share the same determination to rise against it.

The topic here was not simply the family, but large families, because they can reverse the demographic crisis that threatens the future of Russia, not to mention that of most countries in the West. However, here the problem and its causes were put out in the open: U. S. journalist Donald Feder, advisor to the World Congress of Families and a wise, practicing Jєω, :rolleyes: said, a false perception of sɛҳuąƖity is the cause of the demographic crisis, specifically the idea that sɛҳuąƖity is for enjoyment only and must have no consequences.

On the contrary, sɛҳuąƖity’s foremost purpose is the creation of human life in the bond of love between man and woman. Because pills and condoms cannot always obstruct this creative force, we kill 50 million unborn children around the world every year. And we continue to do so despite the obviously menacing consequences, because we have a false concept not only of sɛҳuąƖity, but also of freedom. This false freedom knows nothing but the autonomous, commitment-free, self-defined individual, fed by gender ideology that denies God and nature.

After a buffet, at which no one would have noticed that Russia is starting to suffer under its own agricultural sanctions, there was a spectacular show among the Kremlin’s three cathedrals. The golden onion domes lit up in the evening sun, the play of light added enchantment to the facades, and choirs, dancers and singers celebrated life and homeland.

The second day’s enormous program took place in the conference rooms of Christ the Savior Cathedral, the “St. Peter’s Basilica” of the Russian Orthodox church. In 1931, Stalin had the cathedral leveled and replaced with a public swimming pool. It was reopened for the 2,000th anniversary of the birth of Christ.
Parliamentarian Olga Batalina spoke about the successes of Russian family policy: Improved parenting skills, a ban on abortion advertising, extending the abortion waiting time to a week, and offers of counseling and assistance during this time. There is also a generous state subsidy for the second child. And the five-year results? Thirty percent fewer orphans, an increase in the birth rate from 1.3 to 1.7 children per woman during the same period.

Leaders of the international pro-life and pro-family movement gave 10-minute presentations. It would have been interesting to hear something from the Chinese representative about their country’s one-child policy, but that might have been inopportune.

In fact, for any person from Western countries it was inopportune to speak at this Forum. The Human Rights Campaign, the largest LGBT organization in the U. S., promptly reacted: They demanded that the U.S. Department of Treasury investigate the World Congress of Families to see if they had violated sanctions against Russia. Originally, it was actually the World Congress of Families that wished to hold its international conference in Moscow this year, but due to the Ukraine conflict they gave the event over to the Russian hosts.

Thomas Ward, President of the National Association of Catholic Families in England spoke of a “brutal culture of planned demographic collapse”. He said our culture’s Achilles heel is parental rights. Only parents can protect their children and guard them against sɛҳuąƖ indoctrination in the schools.

In the afternoon, there were ten roundtable discussions each with 20 or more speakers. Each was to give his message within seven minutes - no time for questions or discussion. However, the organizers evidently wanted to make the knowledge of international experts on the culture of life available to Russia. Elena Mizulina says, “Russia has decided. It is holding on to traditional family values. All religions in the Russian Federation are for the family. Ninety-five percent of the population rejects same-sex partnership. But the U. S and the Western nations are waging ideological war against us.”

Everything discussed here is to be published on the Internet (www.st-andrew-foundation.org). Natalia Yakunina believes that because the forum is taking place in the Kremlin, all of Russia will hear the message.

The migration of ideology and its consequences is astounding. In 1884 Friedrich Engels, the collaborator of Karl Marx, saw in the “antagonism” of man and woman in monogamous marriage the first “class-conflict”. In 1917, Alexandra Kollontai, the first female commissar of the Soviet worker’s council set about the sɛҳuąƖ-political destruction of the family. However, even Lenin had to repeal the agenda — to the frustration of Western communists like Wilhelm Reich — because it caused social chaos that stood in the way of creating his socialist utopia.

The communist agenda migrated westward and gained a full head of steam in the 1960s student rebellions, marching through the institutions to the very top. Today deregulation of sɛҳuąƖ norms for the purpose of destroying the family is being implemented around the world by the United Nations and the European Union and their network of NGOs, billionaires’ foundations and corporations.

However, in 2014, Russia, under the pressure of the demographic crisis, sets the course for family and its ethical foundations, recognizing, as it is said in the program: “Humanity must move forward into the future based on the understanding that the natural family has been and remains the foundation of civilization; and the family was – and still is – and forever will be the marriage between man and woman with many children.” [/b]Gabriele Kuby participated in the conference as a speaker.

Gabriele Kuby, German sociologist, book author and international speaker. Her main issue is the ideology of genderism which undermines the family and democratic liberty. Her latest book, Die globale sexuelle Revolution – Zerstörung der Freiheit im Namen der Freiheit, (The Global sɛҳuąƖ Revolution – Destruction of Freedom in the Name of Freedom) has become an instrument of resistance in many countries.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/from-russia-the-anti-family-poison-spread-and-now-from-russia-comes-the-ant#./from-russia-the-anti-family-poison-spread-and-now-from-russia-comes-the-ant?&_suid=141099524272307255713452871856

hollingsworth · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2014, 09:16:10 PM »

alaric:

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What happened to all those prophecies from Fatima? Where are all these supposed "errors" that Russia was going to spread all over the Earth?

Our Lady said: "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will triumph," ..."the Holy Father will consecrate Russia to Me. Russia will be coverted and a period of peace shall be given to mankind."

For all we know, a partial consecration by two previous popes may have produced a much healthier and spiritually positive atmosphere in Russia. But can we say that "a period of peace has been given to mankind" in general. I think not. The rising death toll throughout the ME, Ukraine, Africa and Asia does not point to the universal peace promised by Our Lady. Look at the enormous destruction of property! Look, for specific example, at Gaza! Look at Nigeria, for crying out loud. Is this the peace which shall be given to mankind? I hardly think so. No, the full consecration Russia has never been done properly.

ClarkSmith · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2014, 10:41:54 PM »

Russia already spread its errors.

Petertherock · « **Reply #3 on:** September 20, 2014, 11:36:27 AM »

The same Russia that's sending their fighters and bombers into US and Canadian airspace? The same Russia that is looking to start WWIII???

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/jets-intercept-russian-aircraft-30601825.html

Jets intercept Russian aircraft

The US US jets intercepted the Russian planes off the Alaskan coast
20 SEPTEMBER 2014

Two US F-22 fighter jets intercepted six Russian military airplanes that neared the western coast of Alaska, military officials said.

At about 1.30am local time on Thursday, two Canadian CF-18 fighter jets intercepted two of the long-range bombers about 40 nautical miles off the Canadian coastline in the Beaufort Sea.

Lt Col Michael Jazdyk, a spokesman for the North American Aerospace Defence Command, or NORAD, said the US jets intercepted the planes about 55 nautical miles from the Alaskan coast at about 7pm Pacific time on Wednesday.

The Russian planes were identified as two IL-78 refuelling tankers, two Mig-31 fighter jets and two Bear long-range bombers. They looped south and returned to their base in Russia after the US jets were scrambled.

In both cases, the Russian planes entered the air defence identification zone, which extends about 200 miles from the coastline. They did not enter sovereign airspace of the United States or Canada.

Mr Jazdyk said the fighter jets were scrambled "basically to let those aircraft know that we see them, and in case of a threat, to let them know we are there to protect our sovereign airspace".

In the past five years, jets under NORAD's command have intercepted more than 50 Russian bombers approaching North American airspace.

NORAD is a bi-national American and Canadian command responsible for air defence in North America.

procopius · « **Reply #4 on:** September 20, 2014, 12:10:26 PM »

Quote from: Petertherock

The same Russia that's sending their fighters and bombers into US and Canadian airspace? The same Russia that is looking to start WWIII???

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/jets-intercept-russian-aircraft-30601825.html

Jets intercept Russian aircraft

The US US jets intercepted the Russian planes off the Alaskan coast
20 SEPTEMBER 2014

Two US F-22 fighter jets intercepted six Russian military airplanes that neared the western coast of Alaska, military officials said.

At about 1.30am local time on Thursday, two Canadian CF-18 fighter jets intercepted two of the long-range bombers about 40 nautical miles off the Canadian coastline in the Beaufort Sea.

Lt Col Michael Jazdyk, a spokesman for the North American Aerospace Defence Command, or NORAD, said the US jets intercepted the planes about 55 nautical miles from the Alaskan coast at about 7pm Pacific time on Wednesday.

The Russian planes were identified as two IL-78 refuelling tankers, two Mig-31 fighter jets and two Bear long-range bombers. They looped south and returned to their base in Russia after the US jets were scrambled.

In both cases, the Russian planes entered the air defence identification zone, which extends about 200 miles from the coastline. They did not enter sovereign airspace of the United States or Canada.

Mr Jazdyk said the fighter jets were scrambled "basically to let those aircraft know that we see them, and in case of a threat, to let them know we are there to protect our sovereign airspace".

In the past five years, jets under NORAD's command have intercepted more than 50 Russian bombers approaching North American airspace.

NORAD is a bi-national American and Canadian command responsible for air defence in North America.

Uh, it's NATO that is trying to surround Russia. And NATO flies their military jets well within 50 miles of Russia.

MrYeZe · « **Reply #5 on:** September 20, 2014, 02:15:19 PM »

If they do go to war, I'd gladly fight on Russia's side rather than that of NATO and the UN.

Hey, they're not Catholic, but they're Russian Orthodox, and that's probably as close as we're going to get in the world of today.

Binechi · « **Reply #6 on:** September 20, 2014, 06:45:21 PM »

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However, in 2014, Russia, under the pressure of the demographic crisis, sets the course for family and its ethical foundations, recognizing, as it is said in the program: “Humanity must move forward into the future based on the understanding that the natural family has been and remains the foundation of civilization; and the family was – and still is – and forever will be the marriage between man and woman with many children.” Gabriele Kuby participated in the conference as a speaker.

Bravo , A breath of Fresh Air.

I think all those prayers going to Russia for its "Conversion", ? , are going to a nation that wants to put some semblance of Sanity back into this world, before the Crazies of the US and Nato Blow it to peaces.

MrYeZe · « **Reply #7 on:** September 21, 2014, 12:16:34 AM »

Quote from: Director

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However, in 2014, Russia, under the pressure of the demographic crisis, sets the course for family and its ethical foundations, recognizing, as it is said in the program: “Humanity must move forward into the future based on the understanding that the natural family has been and remains the foundation of civilization; and the family was – and still is – and forever will be the marriage between man and woman with many children.” Gabriele Kuby participated in the conference as a speaker.

Bravo , A breath of Fresh Air.

I think all those prayers going to Russia for its "Conversion", ? , are going to a nation that wants to put some semblance of Sanity back into this world, before the Crazies of the US and Nato Blow it to peaces.

Mind you, though, it won't be easy. The secularists think they have a right to force their own bothered morality and beliefs onto others through force if necessary, hell, the spread of secularism was facilitated entirely by force, ala the French Revolution. It's kind of like Islam, it aims to rule the world, and if any territory tries to oppose laws contrary to its doctrines, it thinks it has the right to engage in a secularist Jihad in the name of the secularist non-god.

poche · « **Reply #8 on:** September 21, 2014, 04:32:11 AM »

Quote from: MrYeZe

If they do go to war, I'd gladly fight on Russia's side rather than that of NATO and the UN.

Hey, they're not Catholic, but they're Russian Orthodox, and that's probably as close as we're going to get in the world of today.

They have a recent history of activly ersecuting Eastern rite Catholics. Their laws give no legal recognition to the Catholic Church in that country.

alaric · « **Reply #9 on:** September 21, 2014, 01:11:32 PM »

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Russia will be coverted and a period of peace shall be given to mankind."

Funny you misspelled or typoed the word "coverted" instead of "converted" because that would be ironic since some believe the Russians are being "covert" in their approach to standing up for traditional church morals and values like encouraging large families, being pro-life and traditional marriage.

Or perhaps that was a Freudian slip on your part.

Anyway, Russia must've never really been consecrated because there is less peace amongst mankind now more than ever.

alaric · « **Reply #10 on:** September 21, 2014, 01:17:56 PM »

Quote from: ClarkSmith

Russia already spread its errors.

I don't have almost an hour and a half to watch this piece, but early on it looks like pure, anti-Russian, neo-con propaganda.

I could be wrong though.

Having said that, regardless of the ex-Soviet state, the only ones really "spreadin errors" these days are the Western "democracies".

Which are slowly becoming the new commie "satellites".

alaric · « **Reply #11 on:** September 21, 2014, 01:20:20 PM »

Quote from: Petertherock

The same Russia that's sending their fighters and bombers into US and Canadian airspace? The same Russia that is looking to start WWIII???

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/jets-intercept-russian-aircraft-30601825.html

Jets intercept Russian aircraft

The US US jets intercepted the Russian planes off the Alaskan coast
20 SEPTEMBER 2014

Two US F-22 fighter jets intercepted six Russian military airplanes that neared the western coast of Alaska, military officials said.

At about 1.30am local time on Thursday, two Canadian CF-18 fighter jets intercepted two of the long-range bombers about 40 nautical miles off the Canadian coastline in the Beaufort Sea.

Lt Col Michael Jazdyk, a spokesman for the North American Aerospace Defence Command, or NORAD, said the US jets intercepted the planes about 55 nautical miles from the Alaskan coast at about 7pm Pacific time on Wednesday.

The Russian planes were identified as two IL-78 refuelling tankers, two Mig-31 fighter jets and two Bear long-range bombers. They looped south and returned to their base in Russia after the US jets were scrambled.

In both cases, the Russian planes entered the air defence identification zone, which extends about 200 miles from the coastline. They did not enter sovereign airspace of the United States or Canada.

Mr Jazdyk said the fighter jets were scrambled "basically to let those aircraft know that we see them, and in case of a threat, to let them know we are there to protect our sovereign airspace".

In the past five years, jets under NORAD's command have intercepted more than 50 Russian bombers approaching North American airspace.

NORAD is a bi-national American and Canadian command responsible for air defence in North America.

Actually it's the U.S. that's been poking the Bear with a long stick safely across the Atlantic.

Putin's reminding them, they are just as easily reachable as well.

MrYeZe · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2014, 02:47:19 PM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: MrYeZe
If they do go to war, I'd gladly fight on Russia's side rather than that of NATO and the UN.

Hey, they're not Catholic, but they're Russian Orthodox, and that's probably as close as we're going to get in the world of today.

They have a recent history of activly ersecuting Eastern rite Catholics. Their laws give no legal recognition to the Catholic Church in that country.

The Catholics and the Pagans joined forces to fight off the Muslims during the Battle of Tours. This would be the same principle.

poche · « **Reply #13 on:** September 22, 2014, 08:38:42 AM »

Quote from: MrYeZe

Quote from: poche
Quote from: MrYeZe
If they do go to war, I'd gladly fight on Russia's side rather than that of NATO and the UN.

Hey, they're not Catholic, but they're Russian Orthodox, and that's probably as close as we're going to get in the world of today.

They have a recent history of activly ersecuting Eastern rite Catholics. Their laws give no legal recognition to the Catholic Church in that country.

The Catholics and the Pagans joined forces to fight off the Muslims during the Battle of Tours. This would be the same principle.

Islam is a legally recognized religion in Russia while the Catholic Church is not.

alaric · « **Reply #14 on:** September 23, 2014, 03:50:14 AM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: MrYeZe
Quote from: poche
Quote from: MrYeZe
If they do go to war, I'd gladly fight on Russia's side rather than that of NATO and the UN.

Hey, they're not Catholic, but they're Russian Orthodox, and that's probably as close as we're going to get in the world of today.

They have a recent history of activly ersecuting Eastern rite Catholics. Their laws give no legal recognition to the Catholic Church in that country.

The Catholics and the Pagans joined forces to fight off the Muslims during the Battle of Tours. This would be the same principle.

Islam is a legally recognized religion in Russia while the Catholic Church is not.

Never heard such a thing. Do you have any proof backing this?

Actually Putin recently came out blasting the persecuting of Christians internationally by radical Islam, so why would he not even recognize the wolrds largest Christian "denomination" within his own country?