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Offline love alabama

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« on: December 16, 2011, 03:09:39 PM »
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  • I don't know of this goes on in other countries but here in the USA I notice that the SSPX has a lot of locations in rural areas.

      Post Falls, St Mary"s  KS  and Roswell GA is an example.


     If it is a US phenomenon can someone explain to me the roots of this tendency?

     Wouldn't it be better to be situated in populated cities and or their suburbs to evangelize instead of giving a bunker mentality of going to rural areas and making a stand there.


    Offline Roland Deschain

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    « Reply #1 on: December 16, 2011, 03:29:19 PM »
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  • If you look at the U.S directory you will see chapels in many major cities  and towns throughout the country. The SSPX opens chapels and missions where the faithful have requested the sacraments. I think you may be seeing motives where none exist.


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    « Reply #2 on: December 16, 2011, 03:32:09 PM »
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  • I would assume that land is cheaper in more rural areas. This would enable the SSPX to build larger churches in those areas.

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    « Reply #3 on: December 16, 2011, 03:32:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: love alabama
    I don't know of this goes on in other countries but here in the USA I notice that the SSPX has a lot of locations in rural areas.

      Post Falls, St Mary"s  KS  and Roswell GA is an example.


     If it is a US phenomenon can someone explain to me the roots of this tendency?

     Wouldn't it be better to be situated in populated cities and or their suburbs to evangelize instead of giving a bunker mentality of going to rural areas and making a stand there.


    "a bunker mentality of going to rural areas and making a stand there" .

    Strawman. They have chapels in all the big cities, look in their listing of chapels.


    Roswell, GA is like suburb of Atlanta, a very affluent neighborhood. Atlanta is a big city of the South, no?
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     Right is right even if no one is doing it." - Saint Augustine

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    « Reply #4 on: December 16, 2011, 03:56:00 PM »
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  • Quote from: love alabama
    Wouldn't it be better to be situated in populated cities and or their suburbs to evangelize instead of giving a bunker mentality of going to rural areas and making a stand there.


    While they do have locations in larger cities, those in the suburbs are not there for the purpose of evangelization; I would imagine trads like to live there so that they can remove their families a bit further from moral deprivation, in addition to removing ones self from the constant hustle and bustle which takes away the focus on the inner life and God.


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    « Reply #5 on: December 16, 2011, 05:38:05 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    Quote from: love alabama
    Wouldn't it be better to be situated in populated cities and or their suburbs to evangelize instead of giving a bunker mentality of going to rural areas and making a stand there.


    While they do have locations in larger cities, those in the suburbs are not there for the purpose of evangelization; I would imagine trads like to live there so that they can remove their families a bit further from moral deprivation, in addition to removing ones self from the constant hustle and bustle which takes away the focus on the inner life and God.


    in a way you are right.  that is the bunker mentality in the SSPX.

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    « Reply #6 on: December 16, 2011, 05:39:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: nadieimportante
    Quote from: love alabama
    I don't know of this goes on in other countries but here in the USA I notice that the SSPX has a lot of locations in rural areas.

      Post Falls, St Mary"s  KS  and Roswell GA is an example.


     If it is a US phenomenon can someone explain to me the roots of this tendency?

     Wouldn't it be better to be situated in populated cities and or their suburbs to evangelize instead of giving a bunker mentality of going to rural areas and making a stand there.


    "a bunker mentality of going to rural areas and making a stand there" .

    Strawman. They have chapels in all the big cities, look in their listing of chapels.


    Roswell, GA is like suburb of Atlanta, a very affluent neighborhood. Atlanta is a big city of the South, no?


    they do have a mission in NYC in Midtown. I have been there. but i have heard of people desiring to go to St Marys to live.

    Offline love alabama

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    « Reply #7 on: December 16, 2011, 05:42:04 PM »
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  • The priest in this Southern California chapel encourages and urges young traditional Catholic families to relocate out of here in favor of places such as Post Falls and Kansas City....the idea is to get the children out of the big cities and away from the influence of society, particularly in what they consider a 'wasteland' such as S. California. Their ideal is to have large traditional Catholic communities, such as St. Mary's. The old people can stay in the cities and line the baskets with gold...and as far as the treatment of the older generations and those with grown families...they're nothing but income and physical labor for the chapel. They treat the families with young children like royalty...unbalanced and un-Catholic behavior...despicable really.


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    I found this on another forum .  This is the mentality that I want explained.

    - love alabama


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    « Reply #8 on: December 16, 2011, 06:05:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: love alabama
    The priest in this Southern California chapel encourages and urges young traditional Catholic families to relocate out of here in favor of places such as Post Falls and Kansas City....the idea is to get the children out of the big cities and away from the influence of society, particularly in what they consider a 'wasteland' such as S. California. Their ideal is to have large traditional Catholic communities, such as St. Mary's. The old people can stay in the cities and line the baskets with gold...and as far as the treatment of the older generations and those with grown families...they're nothing but income and physical labor for the chapel. They treat the families with young children like royalty...unbalanced and un-Catholic behavior...despicable really.


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    I found this on another forum .  This is the mentality that I want explained.

    - love alabama


    Historically the Catholic Church in the US encouraged Catholic settlement in rural areas, and those areas tended to be the most integrally Catholic areas before Vatican II.  For example, when my mother was growing up her family only had to contribute $1 dollar to the state for education.  There were no public schools where she lived.

    Whereas Iowa farmers were very prosperous 120 years ago, today rural areas are economically depressed.  City Catholics aren't German peasants settling new territories.

    From the sound of it (on various boards) the SSPX in St. Mary's is not at all popular with the general population in the surrounding area.

    Of course, that might have to do with the peculiarities of the SSPX.  

    The viability of concentrating traditional Catholics in the countryside is economically and politically tenuous.  As society becomes more and more anti-Christian and tyrannical there's little to stop the Federal government in a 20 years or so from swooping in and stealing the children like they did to the mormon polygamists.


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    « Reply #9 on: December 16, 2011, 06:23:51 PM »
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  • From what I've seen it all just depended on where they were invited to go, or in the case of St. Marys where some useful facility happened to be located. Some of the rural Society missions were initially founded, I think, because Catholics interested in tradition there sometimes connected with each other for the first time as members of the John Birch Society.

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    « Reply #10 on: June 28, 2013, 12:40:40 AM »
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  • Quote from: Canute
    From what I've seen it all just depended on where they were invited to go, or in the case of St. Marys where some useful facility happened to be located. Some of the rural Society missions were initially founded, I think, because Catholics interested in tradition there sometimes connected with each other for the first time as members of the John Birch Society.


    Yes and unfortunately that accounts partially for the influence of Americanism on these chapels.


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    « Reply #11 on: June 28, 2013, 01:01:58 AM »
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  • Roswell is not a "rural" area. It is a suburb of Atlanta.

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    « Reply #12 on: June 28, 2013, 02:54:31 AM »
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  • When you follow the Book of Genesis, Cain and his lineage of sin started cities and dwelt therein.  The lineage of the Just started in the countrysides and dwelt therein.

    The rest plays out in history...the war of the two.