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Re: Rules of the Society of St. Vincent de Paul 1909 Edition vs 1878 Edition
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2017, 11:50:55 PM »
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  • The book I have is "Manual of the Society of St. Vincent De Paul" of 1944.  The Rule 1st chapter of Dec. 1835, articles, prayers and all chapters are of the 1800's like 1849 and such. This book was printed in Ireland.  Ends with Principal works of the Society: Schools, patronages, catechism, apprentices, employment, Holy Families, Marriages, Kitchens run by Sister of Charity and if possible the Brothers should take part in the distribution of the food, lodgings, libraries, visiting prisoners, hospitals,

    But I can tell you, St. Vincent De Paul societies of the New Order, serve everyone, when I asked why State phone numbers were advertised in their institutions.  The phone numbers were for abortion referral and etc. That was in 1995 in Phoenix.  And to this day, they continue. St. Vincent De Paul receives federal $$ and so they must align themselves such as the example with abortion referrals.

    It is very sad!
    That is correct. The Saint Vincent de Paul Society serves everyone. For some people that may be their first contact with the Catholic Church. The Saint Vincent de Paul Society gives direct assistance to the poor. I have never known any member of the Saint Vincent de Paul  to make an abortion referral. The principal funding of the Saint Vincent de Paul comes from the money that is donated to it during the periodic collections at the Catholic churches throughout the area.       

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    Re: Rules of the Society of St. Vincent de Paul 1909 Edition vs 1878 Edition
    « Reply #16 on: December 08, 2017, 09:57:28 AM »
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  • That is correct. The Saint Vincent de Paul Society serves everyone. For some people that may be their first contact with the Catholic Church. The Saint Vincent de Paul Society gives direct assistance to the poor. I have never known any member of the Saint Vincent de Paul  to make an abortion referral. The principal funding of the Saint Vincent de Paul comes from the money that is donated to it during the periodic collections at the Catholic churches throughout the area.      
    Sadly, in Montgomery County Pennsylvania there is a publication by a charitable group called ORION called the HELP Guide that the local SVdP conferences advertise in and distribute to the needy. This guide includes contact information for Planned Parenthood. I rip these pages out and still have never gotten around to handing out one of these so-called "HELP" guides. (Many of the other contact numbers provided are for organizations that provide assistance--but what kind of assistance?) 
    So, the Society is trapped in the same slide as the rest of the Church. It is up to faithful Catholics to keep it what it always was, a good and faithful Catholic charity. 
    I agree with you 100% that for many people the SVdP is their first contact with the Catholic faithful. All the more reason to encourage simply doing what the Society has always done and to avoid dangers such as leading people in interfaith prayer (which is what the local Philadelphia Council is training conferences to do right now). 


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    Re: Rules of the Society of St. Vincent de Paul 1909 Edition vs 1878 Edition
    « Reply #17 on: December 08, 2017, 10:43:35 AM »
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  • The Planned Parenthood is in "All" St. Vincent De Paul's in all dioceses.  Why?  Because the St. Vincent De Paul take federal dollars.  That is why they serve not everyone, but serve everything!  Conversion to New Order?!  Again,New Order has nothing.  No ordinations, no sacraments!  Dioceses serve the Gov't, the agenda of the Left, the work of Satan.

    I know it is hard to imagine, but this has been going on since the 50's?!  We are slow to catch on.  Do we not recall what happened to the Church that Christ founded, in Europe when Russia had the Red Terror and such.  That was a forceful take over.  Brazil in the 8o's.  We need to get our ostrich heads out of the ground.  The take over of the USA had to be subtle and I have to say, the enemy did a great job!  To this day, people still think their dioceses is a charitable organization.  So far from the truth!

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    Re: Rules of the Society of St. Vincent de Paul 1909 Edition vs 1878 Edition
    « Reply #18 on: December 09, 2017, 12:27:03 AM »
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  • The Planned Parenthood is in "All" St. Vincent De Paul's in all dioceses.  Why?  Because the St. Vincent De Paul take federal dollars.  That is why they serve not everyone, but serve everything!  Conversion to New Order?!  Again,New Order has nothing.  No ordinations, no sacraments!  Dioceses serve the Gov't, the agenda of the Left, the work of Satan.

    I know it is hard to imagine, but this has been going on since the 50's?!  We are slow to catch on.  Do we not recall what happened to the Church that Christ founded, in Europe when Russia had the Red Terror and such.  That was a forceful take over.  Brazil in the 8o's.  We need to get our ostrich heads out of the ground.  The take over of the USA had to be subtle and I have to say, the enemy did a great job!  To this day, people still think their dioceses is a charitable organization.  So far from the truth!
    while there was talk of the Saint Vincent de Paul in my area taking federal dollars that really never happened. Taking federal money is a lot more complicated that it was worth. The great bulk of the money of the Saint Vincent de Paul Society is from donations from the local Catholic parishes.

     

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