Author Topic: Rome Emergency-Horrible 6-27-13 (Read 7870 times)

Napoli · « **Reply #15 on:** June 27, 2013, 08:12:28 PM »

The funny thing is that they want to canonise the popes who let this happen during there watch. If you believe they are the popes, that is. Regardless of what you think about the Vatican, it is an emberassment for us all.

Emitte Lucem Tuam · « **Reply #16 on:** June 27, 2013, 08:21:59 PM »

I agree. The place called "The Vatican" held a deep trust and respect among all Catholics (and even many Protestants) which encompassed doctrinal and moral integrity. "The Vatican", pre-1962, enlisted awe, respect, dignity, and the place to go to give spiritual nourishment and guidance to all nations in the world.

Now the word "Vatican" describes scandal, apostasy, liturgical chaos, and emasculation. Thus the imposter "clergy" interlopers, frauds and scoundrels who inhabit the Holy City, continue in their endless pursuit to destroy and desecrate the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

jen51 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 27, 2013, 08:23:07 PM »

This homo junk is what will send the True Church underground. So be it. Let the lines be drawn.

This news is sick, but not surprising. Just another part to the undoing of the conciliar church.

Watch and pray your Rosaries!

Stephen Francis · « **Reply #18 on:** June 27, 2013, 08:24:43 PM »

A bunch of Protestants DID run in and take over, remember?

I recall the words of Chesterton, when he talked about the man watching a religious procession. He said it would be logical for the man to proclaim that the ENTIRE religious ceremony AND the religion itself were, in Chesterton's words, "bosh".

It would NOT make sense, however, for the man to interrupt the procession and steal ONE BOOK from the entire collection of relics and other devotional items being used, and claim that EVERYTHING ELSE in the procession is BOSH except this ONE BOOK, which is now the property of the man who interrupted the procession.

Worse, in our day, we have the man not only interrupting and stealing, the man is now dressing up and impersonating the very religion he intended to destroy.

Bear in mind, Catholic friends of Christ and His Church, that every second that these perverted criminals are masquerading as popes and bishops and priests is another second closer to when Our Lord Jesus Christ says, "Enough of this" and throws this latest batch of wicked moneychangers out on their cassocked rear ends.

NOW, MORE THAN EVER, is the time to be praying the Most Holy Rosary for the salvation of souls... MANY will be scandalized by these latest developments and the Adversary will try to steal what seeds of faith there may be from their hearts.

Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #19 on:** June 27, 2013, 09:52:52 PM »

If this turns out to be true (and I have no reason to doubt it, despite the denials of "Rome"), I'm very eager to see the reaction of the fence-sitters who "are neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm."

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #20 on:** June 27, 2013, 09:56:21 PM »

, sadly, reports that Italian cops have been investigating this, have photos and testimony, but that Agostino Cardinal Vallini is completely denying all charges (2:20+ on the video)

Now Pope Francis is going to have to O'Brien that spokesman Card. Vallini :devil2: out of the Church.

Voris spends the rest of the video going over the many, many charges over the last few years; very disheartening. Mentions "young teen boys" at the train station being tricked into the gαy priest prostitute ring —I was near that dive not a week ago (the train station he's referring to), and it makes me want to go back to Rome with a baseball bat and run into some of the 98% of gαy clergy in Rome. I knew there was something nastier in the air this year; I threw my euro into Trevi because I'll always love that place, but I don't think I want to go back to Rome. Ever. Seriously.

Very sad. We knew it, but still, very sad. Mostly to hear Vallini is doing the SOS "deny deny deny" routine. It's hard to root for anyone but the Church Suffering (though that feels like us) and the Church Triumphant, and the few priests who are trying to confect a real Mass (ie, not NO).

Btw, what IS a black mass? I downloaded an Audible book on it but haven't had a chance to listen yet. What do they think they're accomplishing with black masses?

Matthew · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2013, 10:01:56 PM »

A black mass is the devil's answer to the Catholic Mass.

It is a form of devil worship, involving desecration of a Consecrated Host. I don't know the exact details (nor do I wish to!) but I know it's evil, in a way that few things are in this modern world. And that's saying something!

Just remember, that the devil wants to ape God -- he wants to be God, he wants the adoration that belongs to Him alone, and the devil is full of pride. He wants his followers to worship him.

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #22 on:** June 27, 2013, 11:08:36 PM »

According to Fr. Malachi Martin, a black mass is the inversion of the Traditional Latin Mass. Even satanists know not to take the N.O. seriously.

It is very sick and disordered and I would not go looking for more information on it if I were you. It doesn't matter. Just know that it is sick and evil.

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #23 on:** June 27, 2013, 11:14:20 PM »

This whole thing seems like it is about to explode. I do not get a good feeling about this. Not even from the vindication that many of us will get from our N.O. family members and naysayers, who wouldn't listen about the degree and level infiltration of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs into the hierarchy of the clergy. This is a time for nothing but prayer and devotion. I will not be attempting to draw attention to these happenings, as I am certain that the homo-promoting media will be forced to tell the story themselves in the coming days. Things like this do not stay secret for long. Especially in the internet age.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #24 on:** June 27, 2013, 11:54:18 PM »

Quote from: StCeciliasGirl

Btw, what IS a black mass? I downloaded an Audible book on it but haven't had a chance to listen yet. What do they think they're accomplishing with black masses?

Think twice before listening to anything like that, it's not for us to see or hear--it is not worth the risk! But thank you for posting the part 2.

It is as powerfully evil as the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is profoundly powerful for Good.

They do all kinds of unspeakable things, to accomplish, say, curses on holy Catholic clergy, so that they ruin the Faith of thousands of souls. Just know it's really bad, and only a few have been brave enough to do anything about it.

Cheryl · « **Reply #25 on:** June 28, 2013, 12:42:31 PM »

Quote from: StCeciliasGirl

Btw, what IS a black mass?

To answer your question...I would rely on the old adage, ignorance is bliss and leave it at that.

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #26 on:** June 28, 2013, 03:08:46 PM »

The book is Windswept House by Malachi Martin; supposed to be mostly-truth disguised as fiction. (I'm only about 6 months into Catholic fora; met an awesome pre-V2 priest who has given me a TON of sources and has some first-hand experiences — not the gαy stuff as much as the pure evil stuff, and how he tried to warn his prelate about it and got shot down; sounds like it was all before or during V2. I hope he finds me here! He has very interesting stuff to say.)

And there's another book like it on my Audible, but I don't think the books go into great details about the black masses, just the facts of them. But I'm still reading this PDF file, "Karol Wojtyla beatified..NEVER" (hope it doesn't offend anyone; I'm on my second read! Well-researched little find with lots of pictures!)

I would hope they don't have published black masses! —Well, besides bugnini's no mass. (Hope that's acceptable here; I don't do no mass; our local no parish is like a walk through Dante's Inferno. Only atheists and a few old widows attend; the rest went Episcopalian or travel to a TLM or Anglican Use, like we do.)

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #27 on:** June 28, 2013, 03:27:27 PM »

Quote from: LaramieHirsch

Quote from: Emitte Lucem Tuam
I have said it more than once on CathInfo: This is NOT the Catholic Church! When will Conciliarists, Modernists, Motarians and Novus Ordoians (sic - whatever they're called) get it through their heads that from 1962 till today, the group of people who claim to be THE Catholic Church are frauds, schismatics, heretics and unlawful occupiers of the property of the Holy Roman Catholic Church? This is just one more (sigh!) PROOF of the heresy and hijacking of the Holy Roman Catholic Church by heretics and perverts who are NOT Catholic in any way, shape or form. Please tell me, how much more proof do you need that all these so-called "Catholic" Novus Ordo clergy are not in any way shape or form Catholic? From the so-called "Pope Francis" down these "clergy" pretenders need to be "outed" as who they are: - frauds, heretics, apostates and perverts and in no way "Catholic" as they claim.

Interesting question:

Would you say that Christ was not the true Messiah because Judas betrayed Him and because His apostles forgot about Him as He suffered?

Perfectly good question.

But what the poster here is saying is that the period from 1962 until the present is a period of apostasy and/or heresy. It may eventually be known as the Conciliar Heresy in the same way as the Arian Heresy or any of the other heresies that have plagued Our Lord's Holy Church.

Our Lady, Saint John, Sr. Mary Magdalen and the other Mary and ladies did not abandon Our Lord even unto His Death on the Cross. They never left Him.

Follow Our Lord. If Peter is following too, that's good. If Our Lady is not present, then you aren't following Our Lord.

Solidus · « **Reply #28 on:** June 28, 2013, 04:35:15 PM »

Quote from: StCeciliasGirl

I would hope they don't have published black masses! —Well, besides bugnini's no mass. (Hope that's acceptable here; I don't do no mass; our local no parish is like a walk through Dante's Inferno. Only atheists and a few old widows attend; the rest went Episcopalian or travel to a TLM or Anglican Use, like we do.)

Listen, I don't like the NO mass, but don't ever... ever... eeeever compare the NO to the black mass. I was once interested in occult/magick and read many writings by people like Aliester Crowley, Jules Michelet, and so on. Let me tell you, if you actually knew what happens at a legitimate black mass (Anton LeVay aka Howard Levey is a joke) then you would probably whip yourself into a bloody pulp in reparation for what you just said. The black mass makes the NO look Catholic, it's that bad.

The earliest form of black mass that I know of was by the Borborites, who were gnostic heretics. The scholarship on medieval black masses is kinda shady in my opinion and I don't really trust the scholarship of anti-Catholic freemasons like Jules Michelet. I'm not 100% sure but I believe the modern stuff is based off developments in France during the 18th and 19th centuries. I don't think legitimate satanists have ever actually published official instructions on the black mass, you won't find a Missale Infernum. Like I said before, the modern stuff from the 60's is a joke.

There's also other forms of occult masses. I remember reading something by Crowley where he described a "low mass" at what I believe was either a masonic lodge or country side mansion. At the end of the ceremony the high priestess took off her robes and declared she was no longer ashamed of being naked (mocking Adam and Eve). They all drank some wine from a chalice and fell into a spiritual euphoria. It was probably spiked with psychedelics. This is just one "innocent" example I could give you. The actual black mass you asked about is a million times worse.

Side note: DO NOT READ ABOUT THE BORBORITES. You will regret it. Same goes with any curiosity into the nitty gritty details of occultism.

At the end of the day, the NO is more lukewarm than anything. It's not on the same level of evilness as the black mass but at the same time it is nowhere near as holy as the Traditional Latin Mass. It's in the mushy middle. Since Christ is the head of the Church, let us hope he fulfills his promise and vomits the NO out of the Church. Sometimes vomiting is the only way we can rid ourselves of harmful toxins. :barf:

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #29 on:** June 28, 2013, 04:45:15 PM »

Quote from: StCeciliasGirl

The book is Windswept House by Malachi Martin; supposed to be mostly-truth disguised as fiction. (I'm only about 6 months into Catholic fora; met an awesome pre-V2 priest who has given me a TON of sources and has some first-hand experiences — not the gαy stuff as much as the pure evil stuff, and how he tried to warn his prelate about it and got shot down; sounds like it was all before or during V2. I hope he finds me here! He has very interesting stuff to say.)

And there's another book like it on my Audible, but I don't think the books go into great details about the black masses, just the facts of them. But I'm still reading this PDF file, "Karol Wojtyla beatified..NEVER" (hope it doesn't offend anyone; I'm on my second read! Well-researched little find with lots of pictures!)

I would hope they don't have published black masses! —Well, besides bugnini's no mass. (Hope that's acceptable here; I don't do no mass; our local no parish is like a walk through Dante's Inferno. Only atheists and a few old widows attend; the rest went Episcopalian or travel to a TLM or Anglican Use, like we do.)

I also have Windswept house on my reading list. Haven't gotten to it yet. I'm trying not to overextend myself. I did read MM's "Vatican" a few months ago. That was a good one. I'm currently in the process of reading four different books. Can't add another one until I get through one or two of the ones I'm reading. Those books are: The Ways of Mental Prayer, by Lehodey; Vatican II, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, and Pedophilia, by Atila Guimaraes; The Catechism of the Council of Trent; and The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.