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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: Aragon on March 14, 2013, 01:24:21 AM

Title: Ridgefield and Post Falls attendees
Post by: Aragon on March 14, 2013, 01:24:21 AM
In this video at around 22 minutes Fr. Pfeiffer claims Ridgefield has lost 100-200 faithful to the indult and Post Falls 300 to the indult.

Those seem like awfully large numbers. Can anyone confirm if this is true or not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NRKIRqC9d5Q
Title: Ridgefield and Post Falls attendees
Post by: Neil Obstat on March 14, 2013, 02:18:57 AM
I don't know about these specific figures, but in general terms, it has
been shown again and again, all over the world, that NovusOrdo
bishops do not provide Indultery Masses for the purpose of serving the
Faithful with the sacraments, but rather for the purpose of drawing
away the Faithful from independent chapels, or SSPX chapels, or any
other CTLM venue.  There are numerous examples.  

Usually, the Novordiens are careful not to admit their intentions in
public, because then the truth will be embarassing, and if it "gets out"
then their deception will suffer.  So to propagate their deception, they
work in the dark, like the cockroaches they are.  

There have been times when their intentions have "slipped out"
though, and it is these times that the truth would be known.  Plus, it all
adds up.

When you attend any Indultery Mass, you do not hear any sermons
that are critical of religious liberty, Vat.II, the Newmass, ecuŠ¼enism,
Sodomites or pederasty among the clergy, or any of the other errors
that are found in the post-Conciliar menagerie.

So it is obvious that since this is the trend that the bishops are wont to
promote, it makes perfect sense that they would want to draw the
Faithful away from other chapels where they will hear this stuff.  

Thus the continuity in the method and the message.  In this context,
100, 200 or 300 does not sound like unreasonable numbers.  They
might be a bit inflated, but they are not unbelievable.


Title: Ridgefield and Post Falls attendees
Post by: bowler on March 14, 2013, 09:11:10 AM
Quote from: Aragon
In this video at around 22 minutes Fr. Pfeiffer claims Ridgefield has lost 100-200 faithful to the indult and Post Falls 300 to the indult.

Those seem like awfully large numbers. Can anyone confirm if this is true or not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NRKIRqC9d5Q


Someone from those two locations will have to answer your question.

Meanwhile, from my observations, since the lifting of the excommunications I see the new people coming to mass are Novus Ordo types that want the SSPX to be regularized so they can come without reservations to the SSPX mass. They come because our high mass service is well orchestrated, and it is the closest most convenient Latin Mass.

Therefore, the faithful leaving the SSPX for the indult, may be offset by the Novus Ordos and indulters coming from outside of the SSPX. As far as who loses people, the SSPX or the Indult mass centers, it will all depend on who is more of a convenient drive for the population centers. And who has the prettiest church, prettiest mass, the best breakfast, the most after mass recreation (basketball tennis volleyball courts, swimming pools, parks, etc.). Just like the Protestants they will have to compete to get the clientele.