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Offline Caminus

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Retort to the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
« on: February 28, 2012, 10:34:12 AM »
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  • Q. What do you think of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    A. I think it's immoral.
    Q. Doesn't that make you a homophobe?
    A. Well, I also think fornication and masturbation are immoral as well.  So I guess that makes me heterophobic and uniphobic.  
    Q. Well at least your consistent
    A. Indeed, neologistic epithetics, devoid of relevancy, are quite absurd and only serve the interest of the shallow demagogue.  


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    « Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 10:54:42 AM »
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  • Quote from: Caminus
    Q. What do you think of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    A. I think it's immoral.
    Q. Doesn't that make you a homophobe?
    A. Well, I also think fornication and masturbation are immoral as well.  So I guess that makes me heterophobic and uniphobic.  
    Q. Well at least your consistent
    A. Indeed, neologistic epithetics, devoid of relevancy, are quite absurd and only serve the interest of the shallow demagogue.  


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    « Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 12:01:39 PM »
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  • The OP was for those who may be confronted in real life, but who are not, such as myself, quick-witted.  

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    « Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 07:05:05 PM »
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  • I think that's a good way to respond to an intellectual type of person, but if the person asking "are you a homophobe" was the emotional type I might just respond with a simple, "Yes."

    Because how is it a sin to fear ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs?

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    « Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 09:11:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: Caminus
    The OP was for those who may be confronted in real life, but who are not, such as myself, quick-witted.  


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    « Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 08:13:59 AM »
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  • In my opinion, Catholics should be wary even to use the term "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ" because it connotes a sense that the behavior is innate, that that's just who the person is, and nothing could be further from the truth. Individuals who experience same sex attraction should be told the truth, gently and charitably, but firmly nonetheless that such inclinations are disordered, and that they are called to holiness, chastity and purity.

    Even such an organization as the American Psychological Association classified SSA as a disorder up until as late as 1973. While they only changed this owing to political pressure of course, the fact remains that the modern world simply has no concept of sin, no understanding that some things are wrong in and of themselves, and against our nature and purpose.

    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 08:34:25 AM »
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  • The "Colony" is madder than a wet hen and demanding that a DC priest be removed from the priesthood for denying a lesbian Communion at her mother's funeral.

    Aside from the obvious N.O. problems, this priest deserves our compassion and prayers.  The enemies of God are going to make his life a living Hell.  

    http://washingtonpost.com/local/dc-archdiocese-denying-communion-to-lesbian-at-funeral-was-against-policy/2012/02/28

    There are almost 1,800 comments below the article.





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    « Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 09:05:12 AM »
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  • Thanks Elizabeth. That link wasn't working for me. Here's another:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-archdiocese-denying-communion-to-lesbian-at-funeral-was-against-policy/2012/02/28/gIQAlIxVgR_story.html?tid=pm_pop


    As expected, his bishop failed to back the priest:

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    "...who said the lack of “kindness” she and her family received “is a cause of great concern and personal regret to me.”

    “I am sorry that what should have been a celebration of your mother’s life, in light of her faith in Jesus Christ, was overshadowed by a lack of pastoral sensitivity,” Knestout wrote. “I hope that healing and reconciliation with the Church might be possible for you and any others who were affected by this experience."


    I must say, however, that the one thing the article did get right is the inconsistency in the NewChurch with her issues such as divorce and birth control. They've got just as much logic as protestants, and have almost have no right to defend themselves because they face this paradox of being stern on some issues, but going with the flow on others.


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    « Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 11:35:19 AM »
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  • Oh, thank you for fixing the link, 2srea.  

    The portrait of the "victim" says it all.  Is it any wonder the priest fled the scene?

    Not satisfied with an apology, this creature "will not be satisfied" until the priest is removed.  It's going to be really ugly. For these XXXXs it is always, always about their perversion.  

     I pray some of the good trad priests reach out to him.



     

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    « Reply #9 on: February 29, 2012, 04:29:40 PM »
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  • Quote from: Busillis
    I think that's a good way to respond to an intellectual type of person, but if the person asking "are you a homophobe" was the emotional type I might just respond with a simple, "Yes."

    Because how is it a sin to fear ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs?
    Well I don't actually "fear" ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs so that's just a BS, PC term that I give no credence to anyway.

    You see it's all about controlling the language to begin with.

    Don't play their game.

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    « Reply #10 on: February 29, 2012, 07:38:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: alaric
    Quote from: Busillis
    I think that's a good way to respond to an intellectual type of person, but if the person asking "are you a homophobe" was the emotional type I might just respond with a simple, "Yes."

    Because how is it a sin to fear ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs?
    Well I don't actually "fear" ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs so that's just a BS, PC term that I give no credence to anyway.

    You see it's all about controlling the language to begin with.

    Don't play their game.


    I do!  :laugh1:



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    « Reply #11 on: February 29, 2012, 08:58:45 PM »
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  • There was a Catholic forum I used to go to a lot. I was surprised to find many Catholics who believe that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is genetic. I don't understand why people think this way. Especially when it says in the Bible that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is a sin. Then there are the people who try to say that the Bible was translated wrong, blah blah blah, and they try to justify ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. That irritates me even more. I would say the one thing to do is ask a Jєωιѕн Rabbi. Im sure he will confirm for you that Leviticus is telling us that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is wrong in every case. That would at least confirm that we are not translating things the wrong way.

    I really think that by calling ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity genetic you are hurting many people who suffer from same sex attraction. They don't need to be affirmed in that kind of way...they need to be affirmed in a way that there are things that they can do to overcome those feelings. This is what should be encouraged. If I were in charge this would be on the top of my agenda list. To give people (who struggle with SSA) a chance, and to destroy the other agendas who are standing in their way.

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    « Reply #12 on: February 29, 2012, 09:12:34 PM »
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  • It is not genetic.  If it were, identical twins would always have the same sɛҳuąƖ orientation.  

    The fact that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behavior is a sin does not mean that the inclination toward it is freely chosen.  We are all corrupted by the Fall.  The fact that you did not choose to be attracted to a sin does not excuse you when you commit it, however.
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    « Reply #13 on: February 29, 2012, 09:13:47 PM »
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  • The idea that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are "born gαy" is a lie. As I've said before, usually something happened to them in their childhood that made them start having same sex attractions.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #14 on: March 01, 2012, 10:38:31 AM »
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  • The term that should be used to refer to an active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is sodomite.