Well, I guess I should start by saying that I wanted to sign up for this site a long time ago, but after reading the absurd attack on me regarding my phone call last week to the heretical "Catholic Answers" radio show I now see why its really just a waste of time to participate on here.

It was truly comical to read the nonstop bickering under the thread about "donato the sedevacantist" created by expert theologian Ladislaus, who Im going to assume never played a sport in his entire life. I say this because, since he has taken the liberty to slander and ridicule me, I'll say he sounds like nothing more than a monday morning QB. I don't need your permission Ladislaus to call the show; in fact, I called again yesterday and have been calling for the past year and a half.

You sound like someone who has a sincere insecurity complex, and you are projecting onto others (that entire thread was a joke) your own anger/hatred ect.


Ladislaus was not the only one to be so critical, and maybe everyone should know that during my "moments of silence" Patrick Coffin the closet case censored me, like he always does. You can ridicule me all you want, but don't be deceived by Patrick who speaks so smooth but is a man who dabbles in the occult and more than likely is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and secret society adherent.


Not sure Ladislaus how I embarrassed myself, I asked Tim Staples (and yes I was trying to be polite and trying to compliment him since it was my first time speaking with him) about why they are even doing "apologetics" since their man Francis is clearly against it.

I pointed out how past councils (i.e. Trent) invited Protestants to hear the TRUTH about the need to convert to the Catholic Faith in order to be saved. Anything wrong with that, Ladislaus? I also spoke about the fact that Francis is buddies with тαℓмυdic rabbis, and how the тαℓмυd mocks and blasphemes our Lord....nothing noble about that, Mr. Ladislaus? Maybe you should call in sometime, and defend what you deem to be worthy....Im sorry, but you hate and   mock SVs but your "pope" hides the cross around his buddy Christ killers who have placed our Lord in burning excrement in hell in their diabolical тαℓмυd....and Im not to be upset about that, or I shouldn't point that out ?

I also mentioned the praise which apostate rome and phony francis are giving to heretics like John Hus and Martin Luther.....but I guess I should simply ignore that and be happy at all that Francis does....


Ladislaus, you are a complete jerk; don't ever tell me what I should do regarding calling into that show; you are not my authority, and you are not as smart as you think you are. Get a life you clown

OP, you've merely confirmed the speculation.  Your modernist writing style and prideful attack out of the gate betrays a lot about your character. It would have been better for you - a new member - to introduce yourself and your position without emotion and flaming. So now we can see how your call was described in truth.

I also mentioned the praise which apostate rome and phony francis are giving to heretics like John Hus and Martin Luther.....but I guess I should simply ignore that and be happy at all that Francis does....

I don't think that we should be happy about all that Pope Francis says and does. We can't really do anything about him except wait until he's no longer Pope.

I also can't stand the Catholic Answers radio show, and I don't listen to it anymore. I wrote to Patrick Coffin last year to complain about his treatment of traditionalists, but of course he just brushed off my concerns in his reply, which is what I expected.

The Catholic Answers forum, however, is a bit different. If you look at the threads in the non-Catholic religions section, you'll find that Catholics defend quite strongly against the accusations of the heretic Lutherans, especially in the threads about Martin Luther. The moderators allow Catholics to tell the truth about Martin Luther, even though it causes the Lutherans to have fits. At least the forum is a good place for Lutherans to learn the truth about Luther. The Mormon threads also tell the sad truth about Joseph Smith. I just wanted to point out that even though there are problems with Catholic Answers to be sure, there is some good that comes out of it too.

 

In Donato's defence, it's strange to me how few people are taking a strong tone of defiance against Francis and the Novus Ordo in general. I mean, who speaks about it publicly with a strong condemnatory tone? The Dimond brothers? Everyone is either too afraid of being disobedient or too afraid of coming across as fanatical to condemn them loudly. What I'm saying is, that there should already be a larger voice out there attacking Francis so that it wouldn't be up to Donato to make a stand on a Novus Ordo radio show.

I think that Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX has to share a lot of the blame for this for taking the traditionalist movement in the direction of begging the Novus Ordo for recognition and the allowance to "experiment with tradition" (Lefebvre's own words, really, he said "experiment with tradition"). By all rights, this shouldn't be the "traditionalist" movement, it should be the Catholic movement against the apostates, but Archbishop Lefebvre set the tone with his cringing before Paul VI.

The OP started this thread with himself as its subject, not Pope Francis. I don't think the forum as a whole is wanting for criticisms of Pope Francis and / or the Novus Ordo.

The point of these criticisms of Donato is that, contrary to what you're arguing for, what is needed are rational, intelligent voices critical of Pope Francis and the NO; not merely loud voices.

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In Donato's defence, it's strange to me how few people are taking a strong tone of defiance against Francis and the Novus Ordo in general. I mean, who speaks about it publicly with a strong condemnatory tone? The Dimond brothers? Everyone is either too afraid of being disobedient or too afraid of coming across as fanatical to condemn them loudly. What I'm saying is, that there should already be a larger voice out there attacking Francis so that it wouldn't be up to Donato to make a stand on a Novus Ordo radio show.

I think that Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX has to share a lot of the blame for this for taking the traditionalist movement in the direction of begging the Novus Ordo for recognition and the allowance to "experiment with tradition" (Lefebvre's own words, really, he said "experiment with tradition"). By all rights, this shouldn't be the "traditionalist" movement, it should be the Catholic movement against the apostates, but Archbishop Lefebvre set the tone with his cringing before Paul VI.

The OP started this thread with himself as its subject, not Pope Francis. I don't think the forum as a whole is wanting for criticisms of Pope Francis and / or the Novus Ordo.

The point of these criticisms of Donato is that, contrary to what you're arguing for, what is needed are rational, intelligent voices critical of Pope Francis and the NO; not merely loud voices.

Yes, and I come on this forum to have people who don't even know me create an entire thread attacking me for calling into a show (with a total snob as its host) angry and flustered, as if you and everyone else never showed any emotion about anything.

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In Donato's defence, it's strange to me how few people are taking a strong tone of defiance against Francis and the Novus Ordo in general. I mean, who speaks about it publicly with a strong condemnatory tone? The Dimond brothers? Everyone is either too afraid of being disobedient or too afraid of coming across as fanatical to condemn them loudly. What I'm saying is, that there should already be a larger voice out there attacking Francis so that it wouldn't be up to Donato to make a stand on a Novus Ordo radio show.

I think that Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX has to share a lot of the blame for this for taking the traditionalist movement in the direction of begging the Novus Ordo for recognition and the allowance to "experiment with tradition" (Lefebvre's own words, really, he said "experiment with tradition"). By all rights, this shouldn't be the "traditionalist" movement, it should be the Catholic movement against the apostates, but Archbishop Lefebvre set the tone with his cringing before Paul VI.

I appreciate the above which you have written. I still find it amazing that there are people who simply wish to continue ad hominen attacks and judge me (my character, intelligence ect) and not address anything that I actually said to that fraud Patrick Coffin. I think its sad that people are so worried about what impression they are going to leave and not show any emotion at all about the current state of sad affairs.


To all who continue with their judgement of me, thanks again for lovely Catholic charity and lets all pray that I can one day be as staunch a "defender" of the faith as you all seem to be......

Yet another demonstration of your inability to distinguish between objective and subjective judgments.

You're not doing anyone any favors here - yourself least of all.

This is the thing. Whatever Donato's failings may be they aren't as great as the Novus Ordites, surely. The detestation of Donato's poor "public relations" skills is out of proportion with the detestation of a Novus Ordo show's failure to defend the faith in the face of apostasy. Surely, the point is to strengthen your brother in his weakness and not belittle him for not being suave enough when denouncing apostates. I think that we need more passionate men as opposed to mealymouthed smooth-talkers who are careful not to offend anyone. We have every right to attack, with strong language, the Novus Ordo for its diabolical mishandling of a Faith passed down for generations and generations, first instituted by the Son of God incarnate. I think coming across as over-zealous is more forgiveable on this front than lukewarmness, in the same way that you wouldn't look down on a man who spoke with fury against a criminal who raped his daughter but would have contempt for a man too cowardly to defend her.

edit: it's a bit strange how we can tolerate men raping our faith and our Church as long as it is done "calmly and rationally", "like a gentleman". But as soon as someone wants to defend the faith with anything less than perfect manners we cringe: "you're making an idiot of us!"

Again thanks for those who at least see that I have passion for the faith and am trying to defend that which I feel needs to be said.


Im not going to stick around on this forum; it seems all those who wish to label me as bitter ect need to take a look in the mirror. Ladislaus, you don't know me, so mind your own business. Maybe you should call into the show, and make the points you feel need to be expressed. Maybe you can try to comment on what I actually said during the phone call regarding the Council of Trent, Hus and Luther, and the тαℓмυd.