Author Topic: Request for Help from Medical Professionals (Read 2853 times)

MaterDominici · « **on:** July 27, 2012, 03:32:29 AM »

I've been asked to post the following on behalf of a Traditional Catholic family.

Their son (now 17) has been in the custody of CPS for approximately 7 months. They have learned that upon being removed from their home, he was prescribed Abilify and Trazodone. After reading about these drugs, they are very upset that these are being given to their son and would like to present statements from medical professionals as to the dangers of these drugs at their next court hearing. The statements need not be very detailed, only that they would not recommend prescribing either one of these drugs individually or the combination of the two. (... to a minor ... against the wishes of his parents)

They've made this request to members of their local chapel, but there are only 2 medical professionals there. While both have agreed to assist, they'd like to have about a dozen statements before their next court hearing.

If anyone is able to assist them in this manner (or perhaps you know someone else who might be willing to do so), you can PM me for the family's address. Or, if you're savvy enough to produce something and scan it, you can email it to me: news at cathinfo.com.

catherineofsiena · « **Reply #1 on:** July 27, 2012, 04:25:44 AM »

There is a traditional Catholic psychiatrist located somewhere in the midwest. I want to say Missouri. I expect the Society headquarters will know who he is. I never learned his name. A pharmacist would be excellent as well.

Here is the online Physician's Desk Reference resource. Type in the names of the drugs in the search engine and you'll get a profile.

http://www.pdr.net/Default.aspx

Have someone in the family go to the nearest hospital library and ask the librarian to do a search on recent studies of those drugs. They need a preponderance of data, not just one study. If they live near a university teaching hospital or a VA hospital all the better. The libraries will be larger and the librarians more obliging.

Do they have a Catholic lawyer?

I don't know his mental status or the laws of his state but at 17 he should be eligible for emancipated minor status. If not they should seek a guardian independent of the state and acceptable to the parents.

catherineofsiena · « **Reply #2 on:** July 27, 2012, 04:29:57 AM »

They can also go in to any pharmacy and ask the pharmacist to pull up the drug information on the computer and print a copy.

catherineofsiena · « **Reply #3 on:** July 27, 2012, 04:40:16 AM »

Abilify

https://www.abilify.com/

Trazodone

http://www.drugs.com/trazodone.html

May want to seek an independent medical evaluation depending on who the prescribing doctor is.

The demonic can mimic psych disorders. It's worthwhile to have him evaluated by a priest and psych professional who understand the preternatural realm.

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 27, 2012, 08:06:07 AM »

Mater,

I just sent an e-mail to my husband.

Prayers for this family....

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 27, 2012, 09:48:32 AM »

Mater,

I received an e-mail from my husband. I am going to forward it to you. You may forward it to your friends.

Of course, without knowing more about this case, he reminds me that it would be irresponsible as a professional to make a formal statement.

However, please use the information he is giving as a starting point for resolving this disconcerting issue.

Peace and prayers.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #6 on:** July 27, 2012, 09:49:51 AM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

I've been asked to post the following on behalf of a Traditional Catholic family.

Their son (now 17) has been in the custody of CPS for approximately 7 months. They have learned that upon being removed from their home, he was prescribed Abilify and Trazodone. After reading about these drugs, they are very upset that these are being given to their son and would like to present statements from medical professionals as to the dangers of these drugs at their next court hearing. The statements need not be very detailed, only that they would not recommend prescribing either one of these drugs individually or the combination of the two. (... to a minor ... against the wishes of his parents)

They've made this request to members of their local chapel, but there are only 2 medical professionals there. While both have agreed to assist, they'd like to have about a dozen statements before their next court hearing.

If anyone is able to assist them in this manner (or perhaps you know someone else who might be willing to do so), you can PM me for the family's address. Or, if you're savvy enough to produce something and scan it, you can email it to me: news at cathinfo.com.

Jeez, they put the kid on Aripiprazole? The suitability of that drug is dependent what it's being administered for. Has he been diagnosed with schizophrenia or manic depression?

MaterDominici · « **Reply #7 on:** July 27, 2012, 05:54:37 PM »

Thank you all for your information and suggestions, I will pass them along.

catherine - the only lawyer they can afford is the one provided to them

John - I don't think the parents are privy to any diagnosis -- they really know next to nothing about where he's been or what he's done the past 7 months. Before entering CPS custody, he was not on any meds or had any previous diagnosis.

Short version of why he's in CPS custody is that he called the police on his parents when he was mad at them and accused them of abuse. That charge was found to be without merit and dropped.

If they had money, it might be possible for him to be evaluated for second and third and forth opinions, but they do good to have anything left over after monthly bills are paid.

catherineofsiena · « **Reply #8 on:** July 27, 2012, 06:26:23 PM »

Let me do some searching around but I think there are Catholic law groups who do pro bono work. They are Novus, but that's better than a secular public defender.

I have a N.O. friend who is a D.A. I will ask her for ideas.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #9 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:11:00 PM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

I don't think the parents are privy to any diagnosis -- they really know next to nothing about where he's been or what he's done the past 7 months. Before entering CPS custody, he was not on any meds or had any previous diagnosis.

Short version of why he's in CPS custody is that he called the police on his parents when he was mad at them and accused them of abuse. That charge was found to be without merit and dropped.

If they had money, it might be possible for him to be evaluated for second and third and forth opinions, but they do good to have anything left over after monthly bills are paid.

Well, given that they have him on a SARI on top of an antipsychotic, I'd say that someone diagnosed him as having mixed episode bipolar disorder. If the charge was dismissed, then how did he end up back in CPS custody? I'm not trying to be nosy, I'm just trying to understand the facts of his removal from the parents' home. Ultimately, the case could hinge on the procedural as much as the medical.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #10 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:22:49 PM »

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If the charge was dismissed, then how did he end up back in CPS custody?

Police can take your money and they can take your children without you being convicted of anything.

Ask Caminus how he justifies it.

We don't live in a free society.

sedetrad · « **Reply #11 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:42:09 PM »

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Ask Caminus how he justifies it.

I never new that Caminus justified this type of theft.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:46:04 PM »

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Ask Caminus how he justifies it.

I never new that Caminus justified this type of theft.

He defended the confiscation of money.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #13 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:47:19 PM »

Quote from: JohnGrey

If the charge was dismissed, then how did he end up back in CPS custody? I'm not trying to be nosy, I'm just trying to understand the facts of his removal from the parents' home.

Not back, he was never released in the first place.

I've fortunately never been involved in dealings with CPS, but I get the impression that the parents' criminal guilt or innocence has very little to do with whether or not they'll regain custody.

sedetrad · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:48:09 PM »

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He defended the confiscation of money.

Under what Catholic logic? The fact that he may have had to do or lose his former job?