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Offline soulguard

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« on: November 06, 2013, 11:27:36 AM »
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  • A thought came to me while I was in silence.
    I am 28.
    In 12 months I go up one year.
    In 120 months I go up ten years.
    In 240 months I go up 20 years.
    In 480 months I go up 40 years.

    In 480 more months I will be 68.
    In 600 months I will be 78.

    After deducting the time for my exact birthday, I have about 590 months left to live.

    I bet most people on this forum say the rosary. But do they think it obtains mercy for all of their sins? If it is only said once while sins are committed many times a day, are not such souls in trouble of hell fire?

    God demands everything, and demands all of our time. The least we can do is read the bible more often and pray the full rosary 3 times a day. Throwing off the yoke of the world and struggling to acquire holy discipline is the only way, it is a matter of life or death.

    Note that I said I have about 600 months left to live. It should really be called 600 months left in which to pray.


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 05:53:05 PM »
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    Be careful presuming how many months you have left to live.

    You never really know for sure how long you have left to live.

    You might only have a year left, or a week, or a few minutes.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 06, 2013, 06:20:31 PM »
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  • How much God expects / wants you to pray depends on how much is possible given your duties of state (cf. St. Francis de Sales Introduction to the Devout Life).  With that said, I'm sure that MOST of us waste time that we could have spent praying or otherwise serving God.  As a former seminarian, I truly enjoy the time I have to be with God in prayer and hate living in the world, and crave a contemplative life; and it causes me great suffering to have to be preoccupied with worldly concerns.  Yet I offer it to God as His Will; that His Will should be done and not mine.  And that pleases God more than if I simply enjoyed the consolation I find in prayer while neglecting my duties of state.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 06:44:43 PM »
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  • There's nothing like prayer.. nothing like the contemplative life..
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    « Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 07:23:16 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    How much God expects / wants you to pray depends on how much is possible given your duties of state (cf. St. Francis de Sales Introduction to the Devout Life).  With that said, I'm sure that MOST of us waste time that we could have spent praying or otherwise serving God.  As a former seminarian, I truly enjoy the time I have to be with God in prayer and hate living in the world, and crave a contemplative life; and it causes me great suffering to have to be preoccupied with worldly concerns.  Yet I offer it to God as His Will; that His Will should be done and not mine.  And that pleases God more than if I simply enjoyed the consolation I find in prayer while neglecting my duties of state.


    Well said.

    As another ex-seminarian, I fully concur!

    It's true, however, that we need to take life seriously.

    One saint had a good quote, something to the effect of: we will either end up in eternal unspeakable bliss, or eternal unspeakable pain, horror, and torture. How a man can do ANYTHING OTHER THAN work constantly to help achieve the former, and avoid the latter, is beyond inconceivable.
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    « Reply #5 on: November 07, 2013, 12:01:59 AM »
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  • Quote from: soulguard
    A thought came to me while I was in silence.
    I am 28.
    In 12 months I go up one year.
    In 120 months I go up ten years.
    In 240 months I go up 20 years.
    In 480 months I go up 40 years.

    In 480 more months I will be 68.
    In 600 months I will be 78.

    After deducting the time for my exact birthday, I have about 590 months left to live.

    I bet most people on this forum say the rosary. But do they think it obtains mercy for all of their sins? If it is only said once while sins are committed many times a day, are not such souls in trouble of hell fire?

    God demands everything, and demands all of our time. The least we can do is read the bible more often and pray the full rosary 3 times a day. Throwing off the yoke of the world and struggling to acquire holy discipline is the only way, it is a matter of life or death.

    Note that I said I have about 600 months left to live. It should really be called 600 months left in which to pray.

    What if you are hit by a truck and die tommorrow?

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    « Reply #6 on: November 07, 2013, 09:51:24 AM »
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  • I agree with not knowing how long you have left to live.

    Only God knows that.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #7 on: November 07, 2013, 06:48:56 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
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    How much God expects / wants you to pray depends on how much is possible given your duties of state (cf. St. Francis de Sales Introduction to the Devout Life).  With that said, I'm sure that MOST of us waste time that we could have spent praying or otherwise serving God.  As a former seminarian, I truly enjoy the time I have to be with God in prayer and hate living in the world, and crave a contemplative life; and it causes me great suffering to have to be preoccupied with worldly concerns.  Yet I offer it to God as His Will; that His Will should be done and not mine.  And that pleases God more than if I simply enjoyed the consolation I find in prayer while neglecting my duties of state.


    Well said.

    As another ex-seminarian, I fully concur!



    It seems to me that ex-seminarians have a kind of duty to give
    to the world their perceptions of things, because even with the
    partial training that you had, you are able to see things that
    others who did not so study, cannot see.  In a manner of
    speaking, by your observations you can give others who would
    have eyes to see, to them you give the gift of spiritual vision!  


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    It's true, however, that we need to take life seriously.

    One saint had a good quote, something to the effect of: we will either end up in eternal unspeakable bliss, or eternal unspeakable pain, horror, and torture. How a man can do ANYTHING OTHER THAN work constantly to help achieve the former, and avoid the latter, is beyond inconceivable.



    If anyone can figure out who that saint was, that would be
    great.  He is describing the essential folly of fallen human
    nature.  And it is the principle earmark of Modernism, that
    any mortal man with limited time in this world can simply
    refuse to see this valle of tears for what it is, and chooses
    instead to make of it his "here and now" -- his own "private
    Idaho" as the pop song goes.  

    There is no soul in Purgatory that does not regret having
    wasted time on earth when he could have been praying.

    Not one.


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    « Reply #8 on: November 07, 2013, 07:28:45 PM »
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  • Quote from: LoverOfTradition
    I agree with not knowing how long you have left to live.

    Only God knows that.


    That is the case with the vast majority of us.

    There have been a few saints who were given to know the day
    of their death in advance.  But there has not been one of them
    who has been unable to cope with the information.  

    God gives us suffering in this life, but He does not ever give us
    suffering that we are unable to cope with, if we would only ask
    for His grace to do so.  

    And God does not give us knowledge of our own time of death
    in advance because we would not be able to deal with it -- it
    would be too much for us.   The knowledge of when we will die
    is knowledge that would be too big of a burden for most of us.
    It would, perhaps, be the occasion for weakness or sin,
    especially that of despair, which is a very serious sin.  Seeing
    one's imminent demise coming in a few seconds might be
    enough for many to evoke an act of perfect contrition, for
    example, something that they may have practiced doing in life
    but never had much success when there was a lot of time.  But
    under imminent catastrophe, the thought of sorrow and
    repentance may arise instinctively with the chaos of disaster
    at hand.  In such way, what appears to be a thing of horror
    like a plane crash or a head-on collision, might in fact be the
    infinite mercy of God in action, taking a soul when she is most
    able to be perfectly contrite.

    Therefore, while it is true that God alone knows when the end
    of our world will come, that is, for each and every one of us, it
    is also true that God might see fit to let us know when that will
    be, but only if we are capable of coping with the news.  

    I don't think there has ever been a saint who was unable to
    cope with the advance knowledge of his own death, if that was
    something that God gave to him.  It would seem to be
    impossible, after all, how could he have then been a saint, if he
    had been unable to handle that knowledge?  

    And I'm sure someone has a list of the saints who knew long in
    advance when they would die.  While I have heard of a few of
    them, I don't recall their names right now.  

    How about this:  John says that God told him when he was
    going to die.  John tells his sister, Catherine, the news.  
    Catherine replies, "Oh, dear, that would be a lot to know.  I
    don't think I would want to know that, because it would scare
    me too much.  When did He say it would be, for you?"  And
    John answers, "I can't remember."  

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