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Offline Immaculata001

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Repatriation of "European Muslims"
« on: July 27, 2016, 05:56:49 PM »
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  • Maybe Francophone posters and those who are German speaking can elaborate on whether so-called "far right" political parties are suggesting something along these lines, but here's a suggestion I was thinking of, in light of the murder and sacrilege in France:

    The problem with so-called "French" Muslims is one of identity and a failed, far-left attempt at social engineering. The leftists maintain that European societies can be transformed into multicultural, multi-racial nation states with a common, leftist social pact, choosing to voluntarily severe ties with ancient, tribal identities and cultures. The reality for "European" Muslims is that their assimilation is impossible because of the very heritage Europeans claim to forfeit. While "European" Muslims are acutely aware they are not French/European, they have been indoctrinated to believe they must be, and they cannot reconcile the attempt at social engineering with their lived experiences.

    So, why can't European nations with large Muslim populations offer them a lump sum, say $50,000-100,000, to renounce their European citizenship and voluntarily repatriate themselves back to their countries of origin?

    For those averse to paying them, consider the reality:

    -- Having lived in France, I can assure you that North-Africans and other immigrants receive a truly staggering percentage of the welfare benefits European states dish out: from unemployment, paid maternity leave, disability, paid healthcare, paid funerals -- they receive unbelievable and disproportionate amounts from the European states, WAY more than American Blacks, in this country. They are also a disproportionately large number of the incarcerated. If we consider that European governments are actually paying way, way WAY more than $100,000 per immigrant over the course of their lifetimes, the Europeans would actually be saving money.

    --- Once the immigrants would have renounced their citizenship, European governments could make it so that they've agreed to never step foot again on European soil (they would be forfeiting European passports, after all): no visas, no visits, no tourism. All assets would also have to go, or be seized, so they'd be forced to completely sever ties with Europe.

    --- The immigrants would take the money, believe me. It's more money than they would ever be able to save in their lifetimes. Also, because so many have ties with their countries of origin, they know how cheaply they might be able to live in Tunisia, or the Ivory Coast, etc. They are not assimilated and do not see themselves as truly French, so the prospect of living without economic hardship in their ethnic cultures would greatly appeal to them.

    -- For the countries of origin, the prospect of a returned diaspora flush with cash to boost the local economies would be appealing -- they would accept terms for their return.

    -- Of course, they would run out of money in a matter of years (the incredible irony of giving the poor money is that they will inevitably mismanage it). But the terms of the agreement would stand, and they would become some other country's problem.


    -- The offer for repatriation could be extend to second and third generation immigrants, as well, with the same terms of complete severance of ties to Europe. This would get rid of subsequent generational problems.

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    There's no other way to make repatriation possible without an incentive. Europeans could effectively empty their suburban slums and rid themselves of jihadists. New migrants would have no ethnic enclaves to hide out in and would be discouraged from attempts at immigration to Europe.


    "But 'tis strange:
    And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
    The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
    Win us with honest trifles, to betray's
    In deepest consequence.." Banquo, from Shakespeare's Macbeth


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    Repatriation of "European Muslims"
    « Reply #1 on: July 27, 2016, 06:09:22 PM »
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  • Denmark's Repatriation Attempt

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    The Government of Denmark's voluntary repatriation policy with financial assistance for refugees and permanent residents has encouraged Turkish people living in Denmark to return to Turkey as rates of emigration have surpassed rates of immigration to the country. The idea of returning to Turkey came when the Danish government introduced a series of reforms improving existing legislation on voluntary repatriation measures.

    Turkish people who came to Europe almost half a century ago are now considering going back to Turkey according to Ali R?za Önay, the Labor and Social Security Consultant for Turkey's Embassy in Copenhagen who stated statistics show unprecedented levels of return in the immigration history of Europe. Explaining the rates and patterns in emigration, Önay stated most of the Turkish citizens who left Denmark between 2007 and 2012 were aged between 20-29 years old, followed by 30-39 and 40-49 year olds, indicating the young are more likely to leave Denmark despite the fact that they are in a productive stage in their lives and can be employed. "This is very interesting" Önay noted, expressing that they would have expected those above 55 to leave more than the young people, while he stated the situation requires an in depth analysis which could be done through academic research. Commenting on the reasons for return, Önay explained people are mostly attracted by significant improvements in Turkey's health care system in the recent years while the middle-aged population wants to return while their families and children can adapt to Turkey before they grow up.

    The legislation was initially introduced in January 2000, was amended in 2010 and final reforms were introduced in April 2014, increasing the amount of financial assistance for those who want to return to their country of origin. For instance, they increased the amount to 127,517 DKR and each child would receive a total of 38,000 DKR, attracting more people to leave Denmark. On the other hand, it was noted that those who have Danish citizenship cannot take advantage of the return policies while the government is expected to offer assistance for health insurance in Turkey, flight and transportation costs of people and their belongings, and if the individual is planning to start a business in their country. However, those who own a certain amount of money in the banks are expected to receive less assistance in the case that they have more than 50,000 DKR per person.

    Many Turks who live in Denmark have expressed that they hesitate to return to Turkey because the Danish government requires tax payments for their real estate in Turkey and may be obliged to pay these taxes in the case that it is discovered by the government while it may also invalidate financial assistance claims. They argue this is one of the reasons why many Turks cannot go back even though they want to because paying taxes and not receiving assistance may financially drain them. Yet others express they would not consider a complete return but may consider spending half of their lives in each country.

    Turkish government wants the Turks living abroad to return as the rapidly growing Turkey needs more human resources. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo?an stresses that Turkey has undergone significant changes and become a country where people can live and make investments safely.
    "But 'tis strange:
    And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
    The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
    Win us with honest trifles, to betray's
    In deepest consequence.." Banquo, from Shakespeare's Macbeth


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    « Reply #2 on: July 27, 2016, 08:06:33 PM »
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  • Looks like the French prefer murderous Muslims to pesky (and nominally Catholic) Gypsies.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25419423

    Offline JezusDeKoning

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    Repatriation of "European Muslims"
    « Reply #3 on: July 27, 2016, 08:33:03 PM »
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  • I despise the Muslim problem in Europe, too. That being said, you run the risk of making people with no citizenship at all. I feel like treating people like they're subhuman because of their religion would turn them off from Catholicism.
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    « Reply #4 on: July 27, 2016, 10:46:05 PM »
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  • Quote from: JezusDeKoning
    I despise the Muslim problem in Europe, too. That being said, you run the risk of making people with no citizenship at all. I feel like treating people like they're subhuman because of their religion would turn them off from Catholicism.


    I actually don't despise them, as people (I think their cultures and religion are barbaric and insane, though). I actually think they've been placed in a completely impossible and untenable position by leftist social engineering: no one should have ever experimented with the lives of millions of people without the ability to assure them jobs and the possibility of upward mobility, but that's what the Europeans have done (morally unconscionable). Muslim men, in particular, are emasculated and humiliated in a cultural context in which they're perceived as alien and threatening.

    They actually don't have to be stateless: I'm very confident their countries of origin would take them back with full citizenship, provided they are flush with cash.

    Also, the Muslims are one group of people I believe will never, ever convert. I think it's possible that they are a scourge that God has visited upon us (this may be the chastisement mentioned in so many Marian apparitions). They hate us more than anything anyone can imagine, and they hate our religion even more...
    "But 'tis strange:
    And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
    The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
    Win us with honest trifles, to betray's
    In deepest consequence.." Banquo, from Shakespeare's Macbeth


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    « Reply #5 on: July 27, 2016, 11:34:34 PM »
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  • There are rich Moslem countries that surround Syria which is most Moslem.  These Moslem countries refuse to take in these pseudo refugees.
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    « Reply #6 on: July 29, 2016, 06:03:22 PM »
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  • Many of them would just come back and cash out again. It's such a cucked thing to even consider doing. "Please leave. Here, I'll pay you. Please." They're bullies, they will take advantage. They have to be kicked out.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 30, 2016, 01:02:41 PM »
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    upward mobility


    This is now some sort of right? That is insane.


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    « Reply #8 on: July 30, 2016, 01:38:35 PM »
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  • Immaculata1.....   First off the reason that will never happen is simple.  What is happening is the fufillment of ancient prophecy that said that their would be an invasion of europe by the Mohamadeans, which is what Muslims used to be called.  Not all Muslims hate us by the way.  Look at what the King of Jordan does for Christian Holy Sites, and his war with ISIS.  He puts some Christians to shame.    Peace be with you....

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    « Reply #9 on: July 30, 2016, 03:29:14 PM »
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  • What's stopping these guys from taking the money, leaving, (presuming there's even a way to ensure they go back "home"), and coming right back with even more men and resources? War is war and we're stuck waiting for the inevitable.
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    « Reply #10 on: July 30, 2016, 06:36:31 PM »
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  • I'm not certain they seek wealth. The assumption is that Muslims are fleeing war-torn countries for a better life but recent actions show they're in Europe for jihad.


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    « Reply #11 on: July 30, 2016, 09:47:09 PM »
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  • Quote from: ClarkSmith
    I'm not certain they seek wealth. The assumption is that Muslims are fleeing war-torn countries for a better life but recent actions show they're in Europe for jihad.


    This is absolutely correct. Europe has lost the Faith. This is not the first time that God has allowed the Muslims to chastise the Catholics, this may prove to be the worst case in history yet.