Author Topic: Remote Viewing (Read 2603 times)

MyrnaM · « **on:** July 21, 2013, 10:56:23 PM »

I remember reading about remote viewing years ago, probably before some of you were born.

Not really sure exactly what it is, but just have a tiny idea.

Found this Youtube about remote viewing and the sun. I always felt that the miracle of the sun, is a hint of what to expect when Our Lady lets go of the hand of her Son. The sun will play a part in the chastisement.

Watch this video for something to think about. My guess is it will at the best increase your prayer life.

Also google the word Killshot or kill shot.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/_0-_LfGpKOo[/youtube]

MiserereMeiDeus · « **Reply #1 on:** July 22, 2013, 12:04:24 PM »

Whether or not this comes to pass, "remote viewing" is some sort of "psychic" "clairvoyance;" ultimately high tech occultism, and the visions it produces would ultimately have to be from the devil. Some of what is "shown" could be true -- after all, mixing truth in with lies is a great way to make the lies seem more credible. Yes there will be a chastisement, and certainly horrible, but I believe that ultimately Our Lady's Immaculate Heart will emerge triumphant. I don't buy this end to all life on Earth despair-inducing stuff.

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #2 on:** July 22, 2013, 12:10:21 PM »

I watched this last night. Seems plausible. Especially considering the gospel from yesterday, fortelling the destruction of Jerusalem. How much worse are we now than the Jєωs in Jerusalem were, when it was destroyed? We are begging for a Chastisement, and with recent political events, I would say that we are beyond the point of no return.

MiserereMeiDeus · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2013, 12:25:24 PM »

You don't need government psychics to tell you about the possible results of solar flares.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2013, 12:37:25 PM »

You may be right about the knowledge coming from the devil, but I am not so sure.

I read many times that the human brain has so much more capabilities than we actually use. What I read was the brain is like an onion, and we use only the first layer or two. Just an analogy of course.

This in one reason why I put the subject here for discussion of "remote viewing". Not to mention the fact that the subject of this particular video was of interest, and his suggestions to plan ahead are good to hear.

Again I don't know where the power of remote viewing is coming from, and I would be afraid to try it just because it might be of the devil; or perhaps it is the way God created our brain, if so why not use it?

http://thekillshot.com/

MiserereMeiDeus · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2013, 02:02:58 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

You may be right about the knowledge coming from the devil, but I am not so sure.

I read many times that the human brain has so much more capabilities than we actually use. What I read was the brain is like an onion, and we use only the first layer or two. Just an analogy of course.

This in one reason why I put the subject here for discussion of "remote viewing". Not to mention the fact that the subject of this particular video was of interest, and his suggestions to plan ahead are good to hear.

Again I don't know where the power of remote viewing is coming from, and I would be afraid to try it just because it might be of the devil; or perhaps it is the way God created our brain, if so why not use it?

http://thekillshot.com/

New age and occult apologetics routinely uses some of the precise language you just employed to make its practices sound reasonable, and those who oppose them unreasonable. This includes not just skrying (also known as crystal-gazing, which is really nothing more than old school "remote viewing") or fortune-telling, but also psychism, mind-reading, aura reading, psychometry (reading "psychic impressions" from objects) and a host of new age "healing" techniques including Reiki, chakra-balancing, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Fortune-telling has been explicitly condemned; calling it remote viewing instead doesn't make it acceptable all of a sudden, nor does giving it a veneer of pseudo-science.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2013, 02:46:33 PM »

I know absolutely nothing about any of those things you mentioned, you seem to know quite a bit. Have you dabbled?

I read very little about remote viewing but what I did read was, all that was used was thinking with your own brain. Nothing artificial was used.

One just closes their eyes and thinks about a particular person, place or thing, when they see a picture in their mind, they draw it.

That's it.
Unless I am missing something.

What language did I post that was new age? Can you be more specific, please just post the one word that was new age.

Not trying to argue with you, I just want to know since I don't know. Educate me!

I like to dabble with my art, painting pictures is a hobby of mine. One method I use is, to close my eyes and see what comes into my mind, sometime I see something quite pretty, and I paint it. Is that new age too?

MiserereMeiDeus · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2013, 03:24:56 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

I know absolutely nothing about any of those things you mentioned, you seem to know quite a bit. Have you dabbled?

I read very little about remote viewing but what I did read was, all that was used was thinking with your own brain. Nothing artificial was used.

One just closes their eyes and thinks about a particular person, place or thing, when they see a picture in their mind, they draw it.

That's it.
Unless I am missing something.

What language did I post that was new age? Can you be more specific, please just post the one word that was new age.

Not trying to argue with you, I just want to know since I don't know. Educate me!

I like to dabble with my art, painting pictures is a hobby of mine. One method I use is, to close my eyes and see what comes into my mind, sometime I see something quite pretty, and I paint it. Is that new age too?

It's not so much a particular word as a line of reasoning.

"I read many times that the human brain has so much more capabilities than we actually use. What I read was the brain is like an onion, and we use only the first layer or two. Just an analogy of course."

"...perhaps it is the way God created our brain, if so why not use it?"

This line of reasoning has been used countless times in countless books about psychism, fortune-telling and the like. If you close your eyes and mentally get a picture and draw it because it's pretty, that's art. If you close your eyes and mentally get a picture and draw it and use the argument that God created the brain and it has vast untapped powers and therefore you are seeing something occurring at a distance, either spatially or temporally, or both, then you are attempting to do fortune-telling or some related psychic phenomenon. It doesn't require "dabbling in the occult" to know that.

Ask your priest about it.

Frances · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2013, 03:28:08 PM »

:whistleblower:
If something even hints of the occult, keep far away from it. I "dabbled" once, long ago, out of naivete. I messed with the devil and got singed. If you are interested in solar flares, asteroids hitting earth, fallout from nuclear explosions, fine. Check out bona fide facts. But don't let it become an obsession. That God will send a chastisement, we know. How God does it is His business. All of God's actions, even punishments and natural disasters are for the good of the redeemed and for the carrying out of justice, the punishment of those who reject the Reign of His Son and Blessed Mother. May you be found among the redeemed.

Eudes · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2013, 04:02:28 PM »

Coincidentally I heard an interview on Dave Janda's radio show with retired US Army MAJ Ed Dames last year. Dames is the guy who ran the remote viewing unit within the Defense Intelligence Agency in the 1970s and he's also the one who runs the program mentioned here. Dr. Dave Janda gained notoriety over the past few years because of his critical review of 0bamacare, he's been on many tv and radio shows and eventually he got his own show. He has a once per week radio show that I frequently listen to, the link to the show with MAJ Dames & RV is below

http://www.davejanda.com/operation-freedom/sunday-august-12-2012

I remember that MAJ Dames mentioned something about how Catholics didn't do very well with remote viewing. I also spoke to an FSSP priest last year about RV this after I heard a sermon about the occult and the new age movement. He said RV may be a variation of "channeling" whereby people somehow open themselves up to spirits (demonic possession). It's probably a good idea to stay away from it. You can get a better idea of what RV is by listening to the interview. Talk to a traditional Catholic priest if anyone you know is thinking about doing this. Many of these New Age things sound interesting and benign but they're not.

Along the line of demonic possession, Audio Sancto recently posted a sermon about Harry Potter and combatting demonic influence :

http://www.audiosancto.org/sermon/20130617-The-Occult-Harry-Potter-and-Combating-the-Demonic.html

The priest mentioned that the author of the "Twilight" books may have been under demonic influence while writing them, it's a good sermon.

ardevain1 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2013, 04:04:29 PM »

Quote from: John 4,48

Jesus therefore said to him: Unless you see signs and wonders, you believe not.

Do not be so anxious to find portents and miraculous things. They will probably not prove that you were or are right about anything, and may even be a diabolical ruse to confuse and confound. Caveat!

Maintain your Faith! Do what you can to nourish it! Confess your sins! Receive the Sacraments! Do your best to be ready to die at any moment (because you just might). Remote viewing is not something that was a gift of the Holy Ghost, mentioned by Our Lord or any of the Apostles and, while the possibility may be interesting to think about, it does not sound like anything you should anticipate or hope for.

¡Viva Cristo Rey!

MyrnaM · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:26:08 PM »

Thank you all for your input on RV, as I said there was a lot about remote viewing way back, in the 70's as the time frame was suggested here by another poster. I remember reading about how the military was using it to see what the enemy was doing.

When I saw this youtube, I thought it might be interesting. I have no intention of doing it myself. The little I read about it, seemed innocent enough, and the advice on the video was good advice in my opinion. We should take pains to be prepared. Even St. Joseph, when the angel told him the danger the baby was in, ran and found a place of safety. He didn't just say, why should I worry, I have God right here in my arms.

I do believe that God helps those who help themselves.

Now if RV is surely from the devil, lets hope Matthew will just delete this thread. God knows that is the last thing I want to promote.

MiserereMeiDeus · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2013, 12:22:43 AM »

Myrna, you're conflating two entirely different subjects, (1) remote viewing and (2) solar flares and/or other possible sources of a chastisement.

I see no need for Matthew to delete this thread. If anything, it's a good reminder of how forays into the paranormal that might seem innocent enough are likely to be anything but.

Governments have not infrequently used occultism. John Dee, a famous occultist of his day, was an adviser to Queen Elizabeth I. U.S. currency is covered with Masonic symbols. Hitler had astrologers advise him on dates and places for military strikes, and the Allies had their own astrologers to tell them what Hitler's astrologers would likely be advising. Some of them, witches, reportedly also cast spells against the Germans, to "do their bit" for the war effort (unofficially, presumably... but who knows?). The Russians were doing "psychic research" back in the '60s and '70s, and the US didn't want a "psychic research gap" any more than a "missile gap," so they jumped on the bandwagon.

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #13 on:** July 23, 2013, 12:30:01 AM »

I enjoyed the Coast to Coast AM interview with "remote viewer" Ingo Swan. I have his book about seeing stuff on the moon. Fun stuff. Some folks were trying to sell it on Amazon for $300. It's available on scribd for free, though.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #14 on:** July 25, 2013, 05:06:51 PM »

Article published today July 25th about Solar Flares:

http://www.datacenterjournal.com/it/solar-flares-risk-data-center/

Quote

Effects of Solar Flares/CMEs

The charged particles emitted during a solar flare event (particularly, a coronal mass ejection, or CME) create strong magnetic fields owing to their high velocities. These fields induce currents in conducting materials—like cables that carry electricity. In particular, a Lloyd’s report (“Solar Storm Risk to the North American Electric Grid”) notes that “one serious threat to the reliability of electric power is geomagnetic storms—severe disturbances caused by solar storms in the upper layers of our atmosphere that induce currents in long conductors on the Earth’s surface, such as power lines. These additional currents can overload the electric grid system to trigger voltage collapse, or worse, damage a significant number of expensive extra-high voltage transformers.”

Eric Gallant, Consultant Energy Management Services at Schneider Electric, said that “the probability of a significant solar event that affects our power grid is very high. Our sun is currently in a very active phase. Solar flares and coronal mass ejections (CMEs) are occurring on a regular basis. If the energy from one of these solar events were to squarely strike the Earth’s magnetic field, we could experience widespread electrical surges and blackouts.”

According to NASA, some potential effects of the currents created by solar flares include tripped circuit breakers (a less worrisome result), overloaded circuits and permanent damage to transformers (from melted windings).