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Re: Regarding the Alleged Euchristic Miracle at Sokolka
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2019, 09:29:27 PM »
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At the 2017 Synodal Mass held at Corpus Christi Anglican Church in Rogers, Rev. Fr. Jason Rice of the Holy Catholic Church Anglican Rite, a Continuing Anglicandenomination, affirmed a Eucharistic miracle in which "An image of a heavenly host appeared directly over the chalice immediately after the words of consecration."[4]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharistic_miracle

So now are you going to believe that Pope Leo XIII was wrong about Anglican orders?

Re: Regarding the Alleged Euchristic Miracle at Sokolka
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2019, 09:34:26 PM »
If Francis can be wrong about faith and morals, why not Pope Leo?


Re: Regarding the Alleged Euchristic Miracle at Sokolka
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2019, 10:05:12 PM »
I cannot recall all the details, but more than ten or twenty years ago, there was a so-called Marian miracle, where the woman or seer involved was able to get the statue to cry tears of blood.

A priest exorcist heard about this from the bishop of the diocese and volunteered to interview the woman and perform the required exorcism.

The priest had the statue brought into the rectory office, and then asked the woman (seer) to meet him in the rectory. She agreed to do so.

She was asked to kneel down before the statue and the priest stood watching and praying behind her so that she could not see what the priest was doing.

After "praying" devoutly for about thirty minutes, she said that the power she had over the statue had vanished and that she was not able to get the BVM to cry tears of blood upon demand. Unbeknownst to her, the priest had been praying prayers of exorcism to block the devil and/or any black magic.

The exorcism was very effective, and finally the woman confessed that she was using some kind of black magic.

Then there is this incident. Is it related?  We cannot trust miracles, nor can we trust false prophets and those who claim to be Christ.
https://churchpop.com/2018/08/11/virgin-mary-statue-claimed-to-be-miraculously-crying-blood-in-argentina-see-the-video-here/

Re: Regarding the Alleged Euchristic Miracle at Sokolka
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2019, 10:55:41 PM »
Pffft.  I don't even trust that the article is true and not completely made up.  Ever hear of "fake news"?  You guys believe everything you read on the Internet and base theological conclusions on it?

Let's assume for a moment that there was indeed heart tissue in the host, eh?  What would prevent the devil from obtaining said tissue and putting it in place, hmmm?

Answer:  Nothing.

That's why the Church uses the context to help determine authenticity ... e.g. the orthodoxy and the personal virtue of those involved with it.

And God perhaps allowed the devil to do this to test the faith of people like yourselves regarding your own convictions regarding the Mass.  Hint:  you're failing.  Quo vadis is absolutely correct.  If this is in fact an authentic miracle performed by God ... then you have no choice but to accept the fact that God approves of the Novus Ordo Mass.  But I know that God does not approve of it.  Therefore, the miracle must be false, likely diabolical in origin.  See how the CHURCH would reason it out?  You START with Catholic principles and THEN make inferences about the miracle.  You do not start with a miracle and draw principles from IT.

Would you guys like to buy a bridge in Brooklyn from me?  I'll post a link on the internet and give you a good price.  
You give the devil too much credit.

Re: Regarding the Alleged Euchristic Miracle at Sokolka
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2019, 12:37:36 AM »
Excellent post! I remember when I was in Chicago around 1987 (before my conversion to tradition about 6 years later), I had a Greek Orthodox friend who brought me to an Orthodox church that had a supposed weeping Madonna icon. Even then I was trying to figure out how they faked it. It looked so real! Was it a fake? Was it diabolical? Was it a combination of the two? One thing is for certain, it didn’t come from God, as this supposed “miracle” would have, and I’m sure did in many cases, confirmed those adherents in their false religion.
The Holy Spirit goes where it wills, not where we tell it.