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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Regarding the Alleged Euchristic Miracle at Sokolka
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2019, 11:53:56 AM »
Quote from: Clemens Maria on May 18, 2019, 09:34:26 PM
If Francis can be wrong about faith and morals, why not Pope Leo?
I could be wrong, but as far as I can tell, that encyclical *could* be wrong, technically, but I don't see why it would be, as the reasoning behind it is completely sound, and to affirm the opposite opinion would be to say you can validly ordain a sacerdotal priest while intending to ordain a Calvinist minister.  I used to be a Calvinist, the difference between what a Calvinist Anglican would see as a "priest" and what we see it as is the difference between night and day.  This isn't weaponized ambiguity, this is straight up different conceptions, outright, explicitly, and at times (particularly under Edward VI) Calvinism is where the Anglican Church was at.  
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Offline Clemens Maria

Re: Regarding the Alleged Euchristic Miracle at Sokolka
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2019, 12:11:48 PM »
So if some Anglican preacher claims there was a Eucharistic miracle (before the "miracle" is confirmed by the Anglican church, never mind the Catholic church) then we should immediately accept it as a miracle that confirms the validity of the Anglican service?
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Regarding the Alleged Euchristic Miracle at Sokolka
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2019, 01:26:05 PM »
Quote from: Clemens Maria on May 20, 2019, 12:11:48 PM
So if some Anglican preacher claims there was a Eucharistic miracle (before the "miracle" is confirmed by the Anglican church, never mind the Catholic church) then we should immediately accept it as a miracle that confirms the validity of the Anglican service?
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Offline Stanley N

Re: Regarding the Alleged Euchristic Miracle at Sokolka
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2019, 02:14:55 PM »
Quote from: Clemens Maria on May 20, 2019, 12:11:48 PM
So if some Anglican preacher claims there was a Eucharistic miracle (before the "miracle" is confirmed by the Anglican church, never mind the Catholic church) then we should immediately accept it as a miracle that confirms the validity of the Anglican service?
Check out the image of the "miracle" you're referring to:
http://www.nwaanglican.org/eucharistic-miracle-.html

Looks to me like a reflection of a ceiling light.

Catholics are not required to believe even fully-Church-approved apparitions. I think we can be skeptical of supposed miracles that lack anywhere near that level of investigation and approval.
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Offline hollingsworth

Re: Regarding the Alleged Euchristic Miracle at Sokolka
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2019, 03:19:05 PM »

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Catholics are not required to believe even fully-Church-approved apparitions. I think we can be skeptical of supposed miracles that lack anywhere near that level of investigation and approval.

We trads have a right to be in denial
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