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Offline s2srea

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Reconciling beautiful Churches and Church wealth with poverty...
« on: November 30, 2011, 11:39:19 AM »
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  • Hey everyone-

    I don't know how to reconcile the wealth of the Church with that of the impoverished nations She serves. Someone brought up the point that you can have massive beautiful Cathedrals, and peasants outside them asking for money... How do I respond to this fact?

    I assume the decline of the power of the Church has transferred the power for feeding the hungry and the poor to the state, but is there anything else you might add?


    Offline St Jude Thaddeus

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    « Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 04:02:16 PM »
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  • Well, number one, man doesn't live by bread alone. He needs spiritual sustenance as well. Cathedrals provide it.

    Number two, the great cathedrals were built at times when many people volunteered to work on them and others did so because frankly, they needed a little extra cash. Unlike the famous pyramids of Egypt and Mexico, which the left-wingers love so much because they were built by "cool" pagans, no slaves built the great cathedrals and  churches of Europe and the Americas. Many artisans made a good living and a lot of serfs got a few bucks in their pocket to take to the next fair, thanks to time spent on the cathedral construction crews.

    Number three, in the days when those cathedrals were made, the towns that made them were prosperous. The size of the temple indicated the wealth and community pride that the town had, much in the same way that Italian and Irish and German and Polish immigrants in the U.S. competed with each other to see whose church would be the biggest in many big East Coast and Midwestern cities.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Cathedral_style

    Since the days when the grand churches were built, Freemasonic and Socialist experimentation and wreckovation of national and local economies have caused many of the inhabitants outside of the cathedrals to fall into deep poverty. This is the phenomenon you are reporting in your post. Remember, the impoverished beggar of today was not the craftsmen or stone-hauler of yesteryear who actually worked on those edifices.

    Number four, "give a man a fish and he eats today. Teach him how to fish and he will eat every day." What good would it have done to take the money used to finance the construction of those beautiful churches and give it to "the people"? In a few weeks or months "the people" would have spent it on useless crap, either beer or baubles, and would have been left off worse than they were before. At least these churches gave them a dignified place to worship and a sense of pride and achievement.

    These great cathedrals are tremendous artistic successes and tributes to man's supernatural faith in God. If they didn't exist, would the world be a better place?
    St. Jude, who, disregarding the threats of the impious, courageously preached the doctrine of Christ,
    pray for us.


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    Reconciling beautiful Churches and Church wealth with poverty...
    « Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 04:17:06 PM »
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  • Excellent points St. Jude! Thanks!.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 07:01:07 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    Excellent points St. Jude! Thanks!.


    I agree.  :applause:

    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 07:12:33 PM »
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  • Remember the murmuring about the oil used to anoint Christ, that it could have sold to give the money to the poor?


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    Reconciling beautiful Churches and Church wealth with poverty...
    « Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 07:15:25 PM »
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  • Ah yes! Another excellent point- thanks Tele :)

    [3] And when he was in Bethania, in the house of Simon the leper, and was at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of precious spikenard: and breaking the alabaster box, she poured it out upon his head. [4] Now there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said: Why was this waste of the ointment made? [5] For this ointment might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and given to the poor. And they murmured against her.

    [6] But Jesus said: Let her alone, why do you molest her? She hath wrought a good work upon me. [7] For the poor you have always with you: and whensoever you will, you may do them good: but me you have not always. [8] She hath done what she could: she is come beforehand to anoint my body for burial. [Mark 14:8] [Latin] [9] Amen, I say to you, wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, that also which she hath done, shall be told for a memorial of her.