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Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: michaela benedicta on March 16, 2013, 10:53:37 AM
Hello CathInfo Family!

Straight from the book "JPII And His Cardinals" is a REAL picture of our current Holy Father!

He doesn't look so nice and cuddly here, does he??

Love,
+michaela b.
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Sigismund on March 16, 2013, 01:03:01 PM
No, he does not look cuddly.  He looks like a cardinal.  and a much thinner cardinal, at that.  
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: sam on March 16, 2013, 01:11:51 PM
This picture dose not prove antything
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Renzo on March 16, 2013, 01:23:14 PM
Thanks for posting this picture.  He looks italian and in that picture and he looks dignified to me.  Actually refreshing, because Novus Ordo often makes priests, bishops and cardinals seem inappropriately undignified/"accessible."  As if there is "NO" difference between them and anyone else.  
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: SJB on March 16, 2013, 01:27:14 PM
Quote from: Renzo
Thanks for posting this picture.  He looks italian and in that picture and he looks dignified to me.  Actually refreshing, because Novus Ordo often makes priests, bishops and cardinals seem inappropriately undignified/"accessible."  As if there is "NO" difference between them and anyone else.  


Except that isn't how he presented himself just days ago. That seemed more like the "accessible" NO type.
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: michaela benedicta on March 16, 2013, 01:31:38 PM
Thank you, SJB, that was the point I was trying to make :)

I need more sleep!!

Love,
+m :)
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Mabel on March 16, 2013, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: SJB
Quote from: Renzo
Thanks for posting this picture.  He looks italian and in that picture and he looks dignified to me.  Actually refreshing, because Novus Ordo often makes priests, bishops and cardinals seem inappropriately undignified/"accessible."  As if there is "NO" difference between them and anyone else.  


Except that isn't how he presented himself just days ago. That seemed more like the "accessible" NO type.


Looks like the 80's. Not all of the traditional garb was cast aside by the 80's, and it is also put on for show sometimes these days. He still has that ugly pectoral cross.

I think it looks like an outtake of a photo shoot.
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: SJB on March 16, 2013, 03:05:41 PM
Quote from: Mabel
Quote from: SJB
Quote from: Renzo
Thanks for posting this picture.  He looks italian and in that picture and he looks dignified to me.  Actually refreshing, because Novus Ordo often makes priests, bishops and cardinals seem inappropriately undignified/"accessible."  As if there is "NO" difference between them and anyone else.  


Except that isn't how he presented himself just days ago. That seemed more like the "accessible" NO type.


Looks like the 80's. Not all of the traditional garb was cast aside by the 80's, and it is also put on for show sometimes these days. He still has that ugly pectoral cross.

I think it looks like an outtake of a photo shoot.


The text mentions 1992 and I think it may be when he was elevated to Cardinal in 2001.
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Iuvenalis on March 17, 2013, 12:16:03 AM
Here's a picture I found useful in understanding the new "pope."
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Sigismund on March 17, 2013, 02:05:09 PM
Please don't post things like this.  My cat already is arrogant enough without thinking that ascending to the Throne of St. Peter is a possibility.  I can see it now,  "I declare by my infallible teaching authority that Sigismund is eternally damned for not feeding me tuna five times a day.  Anathema Sit!"
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: MyrnaM on March 19, 2013, 08:30:25 AM
(http://[IMG]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj108/Myrnanne/WhereIsJesus.jpg)[/img]
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on March 19, 2013, 09:58:19 AM
At Lease it is NOT the ugly inverted cross of Paul VI and John Paul ll.
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: MyrnaM on March 19, 2013, 11:38:04 AM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
At Lease it is NOT the ugly inverted cross of Paul VI and John Paul ll.


I agree, however I can just imagine now their thinking...It seems there is a tiny image of a lamb, next "pretender" will change it to a goat, and so on, and so on, and so on.   :popcorn:

Can't see it to well, perhaps it is a goat already!    :facepalm:
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Ck104 on March 19, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: MyrnaM
(http://[IMG]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj108/Myrnanne/WhereIsJesus.jpg)[/img]


Actually, Pope Francis is using the Papal staff used by popes Pius XII and John XXIII, which is similar to the papal staff used by Pope Pius IX.Pope Benedict XVI revived this papal staff during his pontificate, a vast improvement over the ugly bent crucifix used by Paul VI and John Paul II

Starting from His Holiness Pope Innocent III, the popes in the Middle Ages used a papal staff with three bars, the three bars representing  the Holy Trinity: Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the Three Divine Persons of the One True God.

A statue of Pope St. Sylvester depicting him with the three barred Papal Cross
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/San_Silvestro.JPG/450px-San_Silvestro.JPG)



Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Ck104 on March 19, 2013, 02:12:11 PM
The three barred Papal Cross:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Cross_of_the_pope.svg/100px-Cross_of_the_pope.svg.png)

For comparison, the archiepiscopal cross, or archbishop's cross:

(http://www.texasyorkrite.org/commandery/images/Crosses/image009.jpg)

Interestingly enough, there is a photo of John Paul II using the three barred papal staff
(http://www.seiyaku.com/images/cross/pope02.jpg)
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Pelly on March 19, 2013, 02:28:56 PM
I don't know what kind of website is Seiyaku. It seems like a Protestant site.
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Sigismund on March 19, 2013, 08:48:55 PM
Quote from: MyrnaM
(http://[IMG]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj108/Myrnanne/WhereIsJesus.jpg)[/img]


Hasn't the cross used as a crozier by the Holy Father always been a bare cross? at least before and after John Paul II?
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on March 19, 2013, 09:35:13 PM
I never have seen this type of cross with a lamb.

With modernist, always expect the radical change from what was
traditional.

The real question is what harm this is doing to the salvation of
souls.
Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Sede Catholic on March 19, 2013, 09:50:12 PM
Francis has no cross on his vestments, that can be seen in that picture.
Also, Francis has no cross on his mitre.
This is clearly intentional.
There is a deliberate absence of any Christian symbols.
Ask yourself: Why?
Why would a man who claims to be a Catholic, avoid the Cross?



Title: REAL Picture Of Pope Francis!!
Post by: Ck104 on March 19, 2013, 11:00:59 PM
Quote from: Ck104
Quote from: MyrnaM
(http://[IMG]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj108/Myrnanne/WhereIsJesus.jpg)[/img]


Actually, Pope Francis is using the Papal staff used by popes Pius XII and John XXIII, which is similar to the papal staff used by Pope Pius IX.Pope Benedict XVI revived this papal staff during his pontificate, a vast improvement over the ugly bent crucifix used by Paul VI and John Paul II

Starting from His Holiness Pope Innocent III, the popes in the Middle Ages used a papal staff with three bars, the three bars representing  the Holy Trinity: Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the Three Divine Persons of the One True God.

A statue of Pope St. Sylvester depicting him with the three barred Papal Cross
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/San_Silvestro.JPG/450px-San_Silvestro.JPG)




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Were my last two posts in this thread simply ignored? I am not fond of Pope Francis at all, but at least he has better taste than Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II with their disturbing bent crucifix. At least for now.