Mortalium (animos??), you are trying to do a good work, a spiritual work
of mercy, instructing the ignorant. Ironically, he is the "professor" and you
are the "student." The principle of ABL comes to mind, "The superiors form
the subjects; the subjects do not form the superiors."
Therefore, the more you persist in this good work, the more danger there
is to your own faith, merely by dint of his position of authority, which he
will no doubt attempt to use to influence your thinking, even if it is in very
small ways at first.
Trust me, there is no way this man can influence me in the slightest; he is a flaming modernist apostate and i will refute several of the things he said when we talked because he clearly had no idea what he was talking about but i didn't have the papers on hand and i ran out of time.
Please get the Lemius book and read it carefully first, before you try to
go toe-to toe with this guy. You can always hold back later, but if you go
in unprepared it can only give him a weakness of yours that he will not
ever forget. It would come to the point of having to admit that you had
not studied enough when you had said something earlier on a previous
meeting, and then he'll throw that back at you as if nothing you say is
reliable. Don't give him the chance!
Read this book and QUIZ YOURSELF! Keep a copy of Pascendi on hand
and try to find the answer in there before you look to see what Fr. Lemus'
answer is to each question. All the answers are in Pascendi, but some of
them are not so obvious!! You won't be able to find them!! Only after you
read his answer will you then realize the problem was that you had not
adequately comprehended that part of Pascendi. You will feel very much
on top of the world when you finish your work with it!!
The advice of TKGS above, and on the first page are very good. You are
well advised to read them several times. Especially Pascendi: you not
only must merely READ it, you must STUDY it. It takes more than one
read. There is an excellent book, called A CATECHISM OF MODERNISM,
by Fr. Lemius, available at TAN Books. It is a tremendous teaching aid
for anyone who wants to A) understand Pascendi very well, B) use the
principles and treasury of Pascendi to help them identify what Modernism
is in our daily lives, C) take our own comprehension of this important
reality and be able to help someone else to see the reality of Modernism
in their own life and subjective concept of their "faith."
One thing I took out of this great book is, that Modernism is a disease of
the spirit to which we are all subject due to the fact that we live in the
age that we do. But since we are IN IT, we cannot SEE IT. It seems
"normal" to us "because everyone's doing it." But still, it is a spiritual
malady, and one of its symptoms is, you do not know you are infected.
In other words, properly understood, not finding yourself suspect of any
"infection" with this spiritual malady is no assurance that you are not
infected, because your own abiding ignorance of your infection is one
of the symptoms of the disease!
I had never heard about that book. I found it in archive.org and will definitely read it. Looks good.
I'm not at all surprised. I've only met two people in my lifetime who knew
about it before I told them. So it's extremely common, unfortunately.
For someone like you, this book is a goldmine. And it's only $6.00! If you
find it online for free, whatever, but for me, it's a bit more difficult to work
through two books using post-its and taking my notes when there are no
physical papers to stick the post-its on. I use them for bookmarks because
they don't fall out!!!! HAHAHAHAHA
You can reformulate that doctrine and keep it at hand when you speak to
this guy, and just drop in various permutations of the principle at different
moments, in the event that at some point perhaps it will click in him. You
cannot get ANGRY or PASSIONATE or DISRESPECTFUL at any time,
because then he'll write you off as a "Bible thumper" or a "wacko."
I always remain calm but it's the other person who always get emotional and irrational, upset etc.
Like i said, this guy got upset when i was speaking against Luther! He then told himself, "Calm down! Calm down!"
We'll see how it goes. I won't waste too much time with him though.
There's actually a novus ordo non-priest i have been chatting on the phone with back and forth for several days now. I went to speak to him once and he's just another modernist.
I'm really surprised how many priests of any description there are who
do not seem to be able to perceive the Modernism in their own behavior
and answers to questions. It's truly appalling. Pope St. Pius X was
absolutely correct in his assessment that Modernism, left unchecked, would
become the wreck and ruin of all religion.
For it is not only the Catholic
Faith that it attacks, but religion itself, EVEN FALSE RELIGIONS are
attacked by this 7-headed Beast of Chapter 13 of the Apocalypse!! All religion would be destroyed so as to be replaced with the new, false
religion of the anti-Christ.
His only defense to all i would tell him was "I will follow Ratzinger because he's a superb theologian and I will follow Wojtyla because he was a giant man of the faith"!
Talk about a religion of man.
Sister Mariana de Jesus Torres said that she would much prefer to have
been given to live in our age because there would be many more ways
to become a saint today. That was 400 years ago. Evangelizing now is
far more challenging with the example of several popes in succession who
have given such scandalous examples. If you hope to convince him of
sedevacantism, all I can tell you is "good luck."
Furthermore, I find it curious that sede priests are not too eager to have
their faithful studying Pascendi. From what I can tell, they're afraid of it,
because it makes you THINK too much. And when that happens, you might
well see the problems with being sede.
Also, a definition of what exactly the "bastions" are would make it easier.
If there is any one thing that Modernists abhor it's definition. It is like
Kryptonite to them. Is there any wonder that John XXIII abandoned
any and all definition, and condemnation of error (which is a kind of
definition)?
They do not want to define anything because then their options are
limited -- and you know how much they love to have options!!
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