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Offline John Grace

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« on: August 10, 2013, 03:17:39 PM »
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  • I am happy to make a clarification that I am not hostile to Raphaela. It's just for the past eight weeks or so, I have been trying to keep people from getting discouraged in the fight and it is putting me under pressure. Since the abortion bill a few people have been getting discouraged. Also it's necessary to ensure people don't go off on  tangents. They are of course well intentioned but then could suffer a defeat and get totally demoralised and would never help a campaign again.

    Already some are saying "abortion is in now, nothing we can do". In reality it has been in for years and there is a bigger picture.

    I was perhaps a bit annoyed  Raphaela was questioning my sincerity. As for the PereJoseph thread my joke backfired terribly. I was merely trying to follow advice that Clare on Ignis Ardens gave of not taking fora and matters seriously.

    I'm very busy. It doesn't help when others don't pull their weight or get involved. I have to scale back to activism.


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    « Reply #1 on: August 10, 2013, 03:30:47 PM »
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  • John Grace wrote:
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    Since the abortion bill a few people have been getting discouraged.


    There is a constant temptation to get discouraged in our times.  By all appearances we are losing on every front, everything is getting progressively more evil.  Evil in the world is also growing more rapidly than in the past, and in the last few years it has been growing exponentially.

    Whenever you get discouraged keep reminding yourself that despite appearances, God is in complete control.  He is permitting this for His own reasons and we need to trust Him.  

    I believe that things are only going to spiral downward even faster, so we all need to brace ourselves in a complete abandonment of trust in God's Providence.  

    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic


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    « Reply #2 on: August 10, 2013, 03:49:17 PM »
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    John Grace wrote:
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    Since the abortion bill a few people have been getting discouraged.


    There is a constant temptation to get discouraged in our times.  By all appearances we are losing on every front, everything is getting progressively more evil.  Evil in the world is also growing more rapidly than in the past, and in the last few years it has been growing exponentially.

    Whenever you get discouraged keep reminding yourself that despite appearances, God is in complete control.  He is permitting this for His own reasons and we need to trust Him.  

    I believe that things are only going to spiral downward even faster, so we all need to brace ourselves in a complete abandonment of trust in God's Providence.  



    I am far from discouraged and agree with you. I firmly believe we are living among the ruins. I walked through a city the day after the vote on abortion. Mourning? Thousands praying the rosary? Every second person talking about the vote and lamenting?

    No! My experience was nobody was talking about it on the streets, musicians were playing on the streets, people walked along with shopping bags, people sat outside restaurants having lunch.

    Whilst there is apathy, people not saying something shouldn't be disregarded. G.K. Chesterton did speak of the Secret People.

    All is not lost in Ireland. I'm not naive and saw the comments from TCAT?

    A firmer type of Catholic militant will emerge. A new type of man. Precious Life, a pro-life group use a phrase I like. "Prayer Warriors". I see ourselves as Catholic Warriors, the soldiers of Christ.

    Whilst Novus Ordo and hopefully we can ''tradify' him but Fr Maurice Colgan, a founder of Youth Defence believes we all need to be "blooded".

    It's not a time to step off the battlefield.