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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: Raoul76 on December 18, 2011, 05:30:24 PM
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Last time I tried this, Caminus barged in and then Matthew locked the thread. Caminus, if you do that again, know that you will be held responsible before God, as well as giving an example of reprehensible and un-Catholic behavior to the site. Let me make amends as best I can, please --
* I just had the unhappiness of reading one of my old posts about Bp. Fellay, where I called him a liar and an infiltrator, flat out. I would like to apologize to him and to the site for that, clearly I was playing God and my ego was through the roof. My only defense is that I didn't know what I was doing.
* I mentioned i.e. helped spread the rumor that Innocent XI was helping the Protestant Willam of Orange against the French, probably an anti-Catholic rumor that for some reason is being talked about these days
* I criticized the Jesuits and suggested they were plagued with Jєωιѕн infiltrators. Now, I love the Jesuits! Even the Jєωιѕн recruits ;)
* I don't remember what I said about Bp. Dolan and Father Cekada, but if I said anything suggesting they were ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, I apologize from the bottom of my heart, with great grief over my stupidity. Especially since I have never met either of them. I don't think I ever said that, but clearly I had zero control of my tongue in my first year or so of Catholicism.
* I also retract everything negative I said about Fatima ( this is getting really embarrassing ).
I'm sure there is more to atone for, hopefully if this thread doesn't get locked I can continue to add to it.
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Here's to a successful thread :cheers: (for lack of vino smilie)
And a beautiful one it is Raoul.
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May God bless you, Raoul. Manly and virtuous.
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Yes, nice reparation thread Raoul. May God Bless you.
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May God bless you, Raoul. Manly and virtuous.
Oh come on now! Down thumbing a post like this is just childish.
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May God bless you, Raoul. Manly and virtuous.
Oh come on now! Down thumbing a post like this is just childish.
Is it?
I don't like it when SSPX sycophants crow over the self-abasement of critics.
Bishop Fellay has demonstrated his untrustworthiness.
I'm rather sure that if someone in the SSPX were to act the way Raoul is acting, and thereby incur the displeasure of his superiors, that he would be criticized for behaving in a cringing and unmanly manner.
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Last time I tried this, Caminus barged in and then Matthew locked the thread. Caminus, if you do that again, know that you will be held responsible before God, as well as giving an example of reprehensible and un-Catholic behavior to the site. Let me make amends as best I can, please --
LOL...you take yourself too seriously, this is a message board Mike. You forgot this one from last time, one of the most important that deals with real live people, something GertrudetheGreat has been attempting to rectify for some time now, like I did in the past, but have given up: Accusing others of having a bad will for disagreeing with you is also very sinful.
Why don't you make "reparation" for this? All the rest is disingenous until you really address this fault -- after all, you are responsible before God.
Logging off. Goodnight.
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Is it?
I don't like it when SSPX sycophants crow over the self-abasement of critics.
Bishop Fellay has demonstrated his untrustworthiness.
I'm rather sure that if someone in the SSPX were to act the way Raoul is acting, and thereby incur the displeasure of his superiors, that he would be criticized for behaving in a cringing and unmanly manner.
Another stupid, ultra-biased, and incompletely truthful comment by Telesphorous regarding SSPX- is anyone surprised?
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Another stupid, ultra-biased, and incompletely truthful comment by Telesphorous regarding SSPX- is anyone surprised?
I will take SSPX sycophants seriously when they stop smearing people who criticize the SSPX. This character gertrudethegreat has made ridiculous claims, while jumping up and down about how one must never judge his precious SSPX, all the while condeming people to hell left and right.
While I think Raoul's desire to make amends is laudable (albeit incomplete) - I think gertrudethegreat's enthusiasm for it is not something he would show to someone in the SSPX who incurred the displeasure of his SSPX superiors by apologizing for his SSPX errors.
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Another stupid, ultra-biased, and incompletely truthful comment by Telesphorous regarding SSPX- is anyone surprised?
I will take SSPX sycophants seriously when they stop smearing people who criticize the SSPX. This character gertrudethegreat has made ridiculous claims, while jumping up and down about how one must never judge his precious SSPX, all the while condeming people to hell left and right.
While I think Raoul's desire to make amends is laudable (albeit incomplete) - I think gertrudethegreat's enthusiasm for it is not something he would show to someone in the SSPX who incurred the displeasure of his SSPX superiors by apologizing for his SSPX errors.
I think you're reading into it too much. Sometimes its just better to keep quite until later. This wasn't the place.
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Relax Tele.
This thread is not about a priestly society; it is about a forum member making reparation.
The Devotion to the Holy Face of Jesus is a beautiful form of reparation.
The Golden Arrow Prayer
May the Most Holy, Most Sacred, Most
Adorable, Most incomprehensible and unutterable Name of God be
always praised, blessed, loved and adored and glorified, in Heaven
on earth, and under the earth, by all the creatures of God and by
the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the most Holy Sacrament of the altar. Amen
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Don't be a jerk, Caminus. Here Raoul is trying to make mends for his past actions yet once again you come barging in and mess things up.
And while we're speaking of making reparation for past offenses, I sure haven't seen you make even the slightest effort to do that. You said "the devil is Raoul's father", you implied that PIO and I are gαy, and you called Daegus "another CM" just because he was defending the Faith. Not only that, but apparently you have no respect for Matthew's rules. He told you last time this wasn't a "list Raoul's faults" thread yet here you are doing it again. I feel sorry for people like you, Caminus, who display nothing but shallowness, arrogance, pride, and hatred. It's really sickening, to say the least.
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Don't be a jerk, Caminus. Here Raoul is trying to make mends for his past actions yet once again you come barging in and mess things up.
And while we're speaking of making reparation for past offenses, I sure haven't seen you make even the slightest effort to do that. You said "the devil is Raoul's father", you implied that PIO and I are gαy, and you called Daegus "another CM" just because he was defending the Faith. Not only that, but apparently you have no respect for Matthew's rules. He told you last time this wasn't a "list Raoul's faults" thread yet here you are doing it again. I feel sorry for people like you, Caminus, who display nothing but shallowness, arrogance, pride, and hatred. It's really sickening, to say the least.
Caminus, if I were still in a worldling mindset, I would have some amazing choice words for you that would put your tail between your legs and have you running home to your mommy in shame.
Just know what SS speaks here is true, and all that read these threads to look up Caminus' old posts just to see how bad-willed he is.
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Last time I tried this, Caminus barged in and then Matthew locked the thread. Caminus, if you do that again, know that you will be held responsible before God, as well as giving an example of reprehensible and un-Catholic behavior to the site. Let me make amends as best I can, please --
LOL...you take yourself too seriously, this is a message board Mike. You forgot this one from last time, one of the most important that deals with real live people, something GertrudetheGreat has been attempting to rectify for some time now, like I did in the past, but have given up: Accusing others of having a bad will for disagreeing with you is also very sinful.
Why don't you make "reparation" for this? All the rest is disingenous until you really address this fault -- after all, you are responsible before God.
Logging off. Goodnight.
Caminus-
This was also unnecessary. While this may be a "message board", sometimes this is the only place one gets to interact with other Trads. If thats not serious, then nothing is. I think you're being rude bro. If you're really sincere, why don't you send something like this to Raoul via PM or something. I don't think calling out your brother's sin/error in public, when he making reparation for others is appropriate at all.
Not only that, but perhaps these reparations he's doing are ones that need to be made public; you don't need to make public all retractions, like the one you mentioned.
Charity.
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This man is unbelievable. It is like he's demonically inspired and can't stand it when I want to make reparation, just like the devil can't stand it when we confess. He doesn't even post that much anymore but he comes and muddles up all my reparation threads.
I think each member should have a reparation thread, that no one else can write in; and that we can add to as we see fit. Just a little idea.
Caminus, as many of these as you ruin, that is as many as I can start. Besides that, God sees what I'm trying to do.
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Fine, Caminus, I apologize for saying you have bad will. I didn't think that was judging intentions, I thought that I could judge bad will through someone's actions. Perhaps that was wrong.
I will just say your actions and words are often hateful, which you have now revealed to everyone -- or at least they're becoming more aware -- and leave it at that.
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May God bless you, Raoul. Manly and virtuous.
Oh come on now! Down thumbing a post like this is just childish.
Is it?
I don't like it when SSPX sycophants crow over the self-abasement of critics.
Bishop Fellay has demonstrated his untrustworthiness.
I'm rather sure that if someone in the SSPX were to act the way Raoul is acting, and thereby incur the displeasure of his superiors, that he would be criticized for behaving in a cringing and unmanly manner.
Well, if you think a sincere acknowledgement of self-diagnosed wrong and an equally sincere apology is cringing and unmanly, all I can say is that I am sorry you feel that way. Perhaps this is also cringing and unmanly.
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May God bless you, Raoul. Manly and virtuous.
Oh come on now! Down thumbing a post like this is just childish.
Is it?
I don't like it when SSPX sycophants crow over the self-abasement of critics.
Bishop Fellay has demonstrated his untrustworthiness.
I'm rather sure that if someone in the SSPX were to act the way Raoul is acting, and thereby incur the displeasure of his superiors, that he would be criticized for behaving in a cringing and unmanly manner.
Well, if you think a sincere acknowledgement of self-diagnosed wrong and an equally sincere apology is cringing and unmanly, all I can say is that I am sorry you feel that way. Perhaps this is also cringing and unmanly.
I wasn't criticizing Raoul's post, I was criticizing the effusive praise of it.
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People who seek to right wrongs they have done aren't fishing for praise.
There's no need for people here to be ceaselessly patting each other on that back.
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I was only "praising" Raoul for having the guts to make a new reparation thread after his original one got hijacked.
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I was only "praising" Raoul for having the guts to make a new reparation thread after his original one got hijacked.
I recall he said last time that it was required of him by his confessor, so maybe it would be more accurate to say that he was prodded to make a new thread? :wink:
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May God bless you, Raoul. Manly and virtuous.
Oh come on now! Down thumbing a post like this is just childish.
Is it?
I don't like it when SSPX sycophants crow over the self-abasement of critics.
Bishop Fellay has demonstrated his untrustworthiness.
I'm rather sure that if someone in the SSPX were to act the way Raoul is acting, and thereby incur the displeasure of his superiors, that he would be criticized for behaving in a cringing and unmanly manner.
Well, if you think a sincere acknowledgement of self-diagnosed wrong and an equally sincere apology is cringing and unmanly, all I can say is that I am sorry you feel that way. Perhaps this is also cringing and unmanly.
I wasn't criticizing Raoul's post, I was criticizing the effusive praise of it.
Okay. Fair enough
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People who seek to right wrongs they have done aren't fishing for praise.
There's no need for people here to be ceaselessly patting each other on that back.
It seems to me that there is a lot more back stabbing on this forum than back patting.
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People who seek to right wrongs they have done aren't fishing for praise.
There's no need for people here to be ceaselessly patting each other on that back.
I think the reason why people on this forum react so positively to someone who publicly apologizes is that many of the arguments have been so long and so bitter. A change of heart and a retraction or apology comes as an encouraging surprise.
Merry Christmas!
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People who seek to right wrongs they have done aren't fishing for praise.
There's no need for people here to be ceaselessly patting each other on that back.
I think the reason why people on this forum react so positively to someone who publicly apologizes is that many of the arguments have been so long and so bitter. A change of heart and a retraction or apology comes as an encouraging surprise.
Merry Christmas!
I was only taking issue with the gloater who's new here.
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People who seek to right wrongs they have done aren't fishing for praise.
There's no need for people here to be ceaselessly patting each other on that back.
I think the reason why people on this forum react so positively to someone who publicly apologizes is that many of the arguments have been so long and so bitter. A change of heart and a retraction or apology comes as an encouraging surprise.
Merry Christmas!
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You're right, Canute. One of the worst things about the post-conciliar crisis is that we no longer trust any (or very few) living Church authorities. In fact, anybody from the last one hundred years or so is suspect. This leads us to believe the worst about everyone around us, especially anyone who disagrees with our own position.
I would also like to apologize for anyone I have offended here, especially the poster "pax". I don't agree with him, but I need to find a better way to defend my own arguments than resulting to insults.
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ADDITION:
I can't remember if I apologized in the other thread that was locked or not, but I will apologize for generally being suspicious or thinking that people like Pius XII or Abp. Lefebvre were deliberate conspirators. I know I confessed this but can't remember if I made a general reparation. I'm not going to go through all my errors, nor can I remember them, but it all comes down to suspicion without enough evidence. I mistrusted pretty much everyone at one time so I'd be here all day if I mentioned all my mistakes.
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Another retraction: I believe I once suggested the CMRI nuns who left to go back to the Novus Ordo were witches, which I apologize for. S2Srea mentioned EWTN today, and I remembered when they went on Life on the Rock and I got outraged.