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Rabbis plotted to kidnap husbands, force divorces, FBI says
« on: October 11, 2013, 10:31:53 AM »
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    NEW YORK (CNN)– A group of rabbis face kidnapping charges after allegedly arranging assaults of Orthodox Jєωιѕн husbands to persuade them to grant divorces to their wives, authorities said Thursday.

    FBI raids on Wednesday night led to the arrest of three rabbis who were arraigned in federal court in New Jersey Thursday, according to court docuмents.

    A criminal complaint alleges that the rabbis charged Jєωιѕн wives tens of thousands of dollars to orchestrate kidnappings and accepted $20,000 for such an operation from undercover FBI agents.

    Their goal? To obtain "gets," a docuмent that Jєωιѕн law requires a husband to present to his wife in order to be issued a divorce, the complaint says.

    In the Orthodox Jєωιѕн world, a get is more important than any sort of docuмent drawn up in civil courts. The derivation of this law is found in Deuteronomy 24:1-2:

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    When a man marries a woman or possesses her, if she is displeasing to him…, he shall write her a bill of divorce and place it in her hand, thus releasing her from his household. When she thus leaves his household, she may go and marry another man.


    Without it, a woman is considered an “agunah” – a chained woman bound to a man no matter how over their marriage might be. The implications of not having a get are serious. A woman runs the risk of being shunned in her community, labeled an adulteress if she dares move on and any future children she has are considered bastards only permitted to marry other bastards.

    In one conversation with undercover FBI agents, the complaint alleges, Rabbi Mendel Epstein talked about forcing the divorces with the help of hired "tough guys," who he said used plastic bags to cover the husbands' heads and electric cattle prods and karate to assault them.

    "I guarantee you that if you're in the van, you'd give a get to your wife. You probably love your wife, but you'd give a get when they finish with you," Epstein told the undercover FBI agents, according to the complaint.

    The complaint says Epstein told the undercover FBI agents that his organization had kidnapped a husband every 12 to 18 months.

    Another rabbi, Martin Wolmark, told the agents, "You need special rabbis who are going to take this thing and see it through to the end," according to the complaint.

    Husbands who withhold gets have been held in contempt for centuries. How to deal with them has long been a subject of debate. Names of recalcitrant husbands are often listed in Orthodox Jєωιѕн newspapers to shame them. But more extreme measures have also been supported in the past. A leading 12th century Jєωιѕн philosopher, Moses Maimonides, actually advocated that these men be whipped until they issued gets or died - whichever came first.

    Epstein, Wolmark, Rabbi Jay Goldstein and seven others face kidnapping charges in the case, according to court docuмents. They are being held without bond pending a bail hearing next week, CNN affiliate WABC reported.

    All 10 defendants pleaded not guilty on Thursday, according to attorney Marc Agnifilo, who is representing Wolmark. If convicted, he said, they face a maximum sentence of life in prison.

    "Martin is greatly loved in his community and by his family. ... Hopefully he will be released so he can defend these charges as a free man," Agnifilo said.

    The names of attorneys representing the others charged in the case were not listed in court docuмents. CNN was unable to reach them for comment.

    The FBI said agents raided two locations Wednesday night, a home in Brooklyn and the Yeshiva Shaarei Torah in Suffern, New York.

    CNN's Rande Iaboni contributed to this report


    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/10/rabbis-plotted-to-kidnap-husbands-force-divorces-fbi-says/?hpt=hp_t2


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    Rabbis plotted to kidnap husbands, force divorces, FBI says
    « Reply #1 on: October 11, 2013, 10:37:34 AM »
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  • These rabbis are in trouble with secular authorities and their only crime is following the advice issued by Maimonides (Routinely considered one of the three greatest rabbis in Jєωιѕн history.)

    Maimonides is also famous for the proverbial ladder in the hole advice.


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    Rabbis plotted to kidnap husbands, force divorces, FBI says
    « Reply #2 on: October 11, 2013, 11:07:32 AM »
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    These rabbis are in trouble with secular authorities and their only crime is following the advice issued by Maimonides (Routinely considered one of the three greatest rabbis in Jєωιѕн history.)


    What are you talking about? They made money hiring thugs to torture men into agreeing to divorce.their wives.

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    Rabbis plotted to kidnap husbands, force divorces, FBI says
    « Reply #3 on: October 11, 2013, 05:48:52 PM »
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    These rabbis are in trouble with secular authorities and their only crime is following the advice issued by Maimonides (Routinely considered one of the three greatest rabbis in Jєωιѕн history.)


    What are you talking about? They made money hiring thugs to torture men into agreeing to divorce.their wives.


    I wasn't approving of their actions - just saying that this kind of sordid behavior is par for the course and is looked upon kindly by some of the greatest rabbis in Jєωιѕн history - so they can't just blame it on some cranks.

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    Rabbis plotted to kidnap husbands, force divorces, FBI says
    « Reply #4 on: October 11, 2013, 11:27:02 PM »
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  • So, the Torah supports divorce only if it is convenient for the husband but Jєωιѕн philosophers support torture in order to get a GET. Pretty odd. How do these women convince the rabbis that they even deserve a GET? Is it purely based off of the amount of money they can pay?


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    Rabbis plotted to kidnap husbands, force divorces, FBI says
    « Reply #5 on: October 12, 2013, 08:23:57 PM »
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  •  :surprised:All the sickos are not in the Vatican!
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.