Author Topic: Question on unwed parents who are first cousins (Read 654 times)

Vanessa · « **on:** November 07, 2013, 03:04:44 PM »

I know a guy and a girl who are novus ordos who are first cousins and the guy seduced the girl since she was 12 and now like a year ago they had a baby girl. The guy is like 6 years older than the girl so he's like 28 and she's like 22 or 21 right now.

So now they are parents and but they aren't married and they aren't living together either. The Novus Ordo sect baptized the child of course.

What do people like this do in this case? Are they allowed to get married if they both convert to Catholicism? Or are they forbidden to get married forever because of consanguinity?

And I have one more question.

Should women never have their hair uncovered? The pictures of Saints I've seen before Vatican II have their hair covered. And even in almost all the religious movies I've seen they have there hair covered, like St. Bernadette...

Dolores · « **Reply #1 on:** November 07, 2013, 03:43:52 PM »

As to your first question, the 1917 Code of Canon Law prohibited the marriage of all relatives out to and including second cousins, without a dispensation from your bishop. I believe the modem (1983) Code only prohibits the marriage of relatives out to and including first cousins. In the past, the Church's canons sometimes prohibited marriages out to and including fourth cousins.

The fact that both cousins are (or will be) Catholic doesn't change whether or not they can get married. It is the mere fact that they share too close of a familial relationship that prohibits it. In any event, the fact that one seduced the other at such a young age would seem to be an indication that they should not get married.

In addition to the canonical prohibition, I believe most civil laws prohibit the marriage of first cousins.

Matto · « **Reply #2 on:** November 07, 2013, 03:49:41 PM »

Quote from: Vanessa

Should women never have their hair uncovered? The pictures of Saints I've seen before Vatican II have their hair covered. And even in almost all the religious movies I've seen they have there hair covered, like St. Bernadette...

I don't think it is necessary for women to always cover their hair, unless they are in Church. But I do think it is better and more modest for a woman to cover their hair.

Anyway, here is a picture of a female saint who did not always cover her hair, until she became a Carmelite nun.

poche · « **Reply #3 on:** November 07, 2013, 11:18:17 PM »

From th eCode of Canon Law;

Can. 1073 A diriment impediment renders a person unqualified to contract marriage validly.

Can. 1075 §1. It is only for the supreme authority of the Church to declare authentically when divine law prohibits or nullifies marriage.

§2. Only the supreme authority has the right to establish other impediments for the baptized.

Can. 1078 §1. The local ordinary can dispense his own subjects residing anywhere and all actually present in his own territory from all impediments of ecclesiastical law except those whose dispensation is reserved to the Apostolic See.

§2. Impediments whose dispensation is reserved to the Apostolic See are:

1/ the impediment arising from sacred orders or from a public perpetual vow of chastity in a religious institute of pontifical right;

2/ the impediment of crime mentioned in ⇒ can. 1090.

§3. A dispensation is never given from the impediment of consanguinity in the direct line or in the second degree of the collateral line.