Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Question about Harry Potter?  (Read 5192 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Rosarium

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 230
  • Reputation: +253/-0
  • Gender: Male
Question about Harry Potter?
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2013, 01:21:57 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Boots
    When I started to read the Harry Potter books, the only anti-Potter info i came across was written by Protestants. These wackos were also against The Lord of the Rings, so I felt fine completely ignoring anything they had to say & in general I have a tendency to ignore the advice of Protestants anyway.

    Ignoring Protestants is a good policy.

    However, to not ignore modern liberal, adulterous, heretical, anti-Catholic woman for entertainment is a bigger problem I think.

    That is an important consideration, people will disregard sources which oppose their own choices. We would be safe to have a standard which is universally applied.



    Offline Boots

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 65
    • Reputation: +9/-0
    • Gender: Male
    Question about Harry Potter?
    « Reply #31 on: June 17, 2013, 04:14:57 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Rosarium

    However, to not ignore modern liberal, adulterous, heretical, anti-Catholic woman for entertainment is a bigger problem I think.

    That is an important consideration, people will disregard sources which oppose their own choices. We would be safe to have a standard which is universally applied.


    I understand that & it is certainly clear in regards to Rowling, but if I applied that to movies, music & literature, I would be left with very little.
    Eg. Charles Dickens was a Prot who left his wife & 10 children & took a mistress. Apparently his wife was too plain/simple. So, adulterous, heretical.
    Wilde had a Catholic death, but his life apparently wasn't. Adulterous?
    Wodehouse wasn't Catholic either. Heretical.
    Most of the Russian writers were either non-Catholic or anti-Catholic. Adulterous, Heretical, anti-Catholic.
    Where to draw the line? Just avoid the rabid anti-Catholics?
    Can you see how I got into that mess?


    Offline Boots

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 65
    • Reputation: +9/-0
    • Gender: Male
    Question about Harry Potter?
    « Reply #32 on: June 17, 2013, 04:16:46 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • No idea why my screen shows Charles Dickens with a bunch of #### through it.

    Offline Boots

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 65
    • Reputation: +9/-0
    • Gender: Male
    Question about Harry Potter?
    « Reply #33 on: June 17, 2013, 04:18:34 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • It's done it again!
    Is that some sort of censoring software at work?
    I was trying to write: Di ckens

    Offline Boots

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 65
    • Reputation: +9/-0
    • Gender: Male
    Question about Harry Potter?
    « Reply #34 on: June 17, 2013, 04:20:46 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Oh WOW! That looks like a censoring software.  :laugh1:
    D1ckens?


    Offline Sigismund

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5386
    • Reputation: +3121/-44
    • Gender: Male
    Question about Harry Potter?
    « Reply #35 on: June 17, 2013, 07:10:39 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Boots
    No idea why my screen shows Charles ####ens with a bunch of #### through it.


    Because the censoring software is extremely prudish and not very bright.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

    Offline Rosarium

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 230
    • Reputation: +253/-0
    • Gender: Male
    Question about Harry Potter?
    « Reply #36 on: June 17, 2013, 07:57:44 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Boots

    I understand that & it is certainly clear in regards to Rowling, but if I applied that to movies, music & literature, I would be left with very little.
    Eg. Charles ####ens was a Prot who left his wife & 10 children & took a mistress. Apparently his wife was too plain/simple. So, adulterous, heretical.
    Wilde had a Catholic death, but his life apparently wasn't. Adulterous?
    Wodehouse wasn't Catholic either. Heretical.
    Most of the Russian writers were either non-Catholic or anti-Catholic. Adulterous, Heretical, anti-Catholic.
    Where to draw the line? Just avoid the rabid anti-Catholics?
    Can you see how I got into that mess?


    And what is the point, that morality is relative, that convenience is a moral guiding principle?

    The danger increases when we are more inundated in the things of this world, so we should be even more cautious.


    Offline Boots

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 65
    • Reputation: +9/-0
    • Gender: Male
    Question about Harry Potter?
    « Reply #37 on: June 17, 2013, 11:15:57 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Rosarium

    And what is the point, that morality is relative, that convenience is a moral guiding principle?

    The danger increases when we are more inundated in the things of this world, so we should be even more cautious.


    No, of course not - morality is not relative and convenience is most certainly not a moral guiding principle!

    I was just thinking out loud. Asking the question too, but mostly thinking out loud. It will take time to assimilate and reassign new categories for the various things I have to reassess.


    Offline Boots

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 65
    • Reputation: +9/-0
    • Gender: Male
    Question about Harry Potter?
    « Reply #38 on: June 17, 2013, 11:25:27 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I just tried a few words in preview & found that only Charles Dickens is being targeted.
    Check this out:
    Charles Dickens
    William Shakespeare
    Little Dorrit
    Dick Tracy
    Nicholas Nickleby
    David Copperfield
    Oliver Twist
    Our Mutual Friend
    Martin Chuzzlewit
    Dombey and Son
    The Pickwick Papers
    Charles Dickens
    Dick Van Dyke
    Hyacinth Bucket
    Charles Richardens
    A Tale of Two Cities
    Dickies makes durable trousers.
    Throw the suitcase in the dickie.

    Okay, well maybe Charles D is not the only one being singled out. Curious.

    Offline Oakenshield

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 48
    • Reputation: +43/-0
    • Gender: Male
    Question about Harry Potter?
    « Reply #39 on: June 19, 2013, 07:38:58 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: gobosox91
    I'm just curious to see what the general Catholic opinion on J. K. Rowling's popular saga. I understand that very fanatic people will call it satanic and evil, as they say it promotes witchcraft.
    First off, I only liked Harry Potter from 1999-2003 and just gave up on it, because they were making the movies while the books were still being written and it took forever for book 5 to come out, and in that time I came to love J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle Earth. I love The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit.

    But why do Christians endorse J. R. R. Tolkien's works, which he wrote as Christian (particularly Catholic) allegories, as well as C. S. Lewis' Narnia series, but believe Harry Potter comes from the depths of hell? I was always aware that true witchcraft was bad and that the only true faith was Christianity, particularly Catholicism. I never met anybody who was inspired to dabble in satanism and the occult because they read Harry Potter? This magic they speak of is fiction, and real magic is to be condemned. As long as they know the difference...? How can we endorse certain fantasy stories by people like Tolkien and Lewis, but we condemn J. K. Rowling as being inspired by the devil?


     Harry Potter, if you've noticed, uses his powers for his own benefit.It is showing sorcery to be "okay" and "awesome." (Some kids actually, after reading the books, thought there was such a place as a witch school or whatever they call it and tried to apply for it.)  In LOTR it's nothing like that. nothing. nothing.

    Offline RoseofLima

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 15
    • Reputation: +0/-0
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Question about Harry Potter?
    « Reply #40 on: May 26, 2018, 04:33:31 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • "
    Quote
    On top of that, ex-Wiccans have said that Rowling incorporated lots of Wiccan elements into the stories.  I forget which details, but the info is out there and it doesn't sound great from a Catholic perspective.  I read the Harry Potter series as it was coming out, but knowing what I know now...I wouldn't bother picking it up again.

    Current Wiccans actually get very annoyed when they are compared to Harry Potter, I don't know about ex-wiccans, but about thirty wiccans have protested against a comparison of the Wiccan religion and Harry Potter.
    Quote
    By the way, Rowling told publicly in an interview, that the entire Potter story "suddenly" was in her head within a second, whilst she drove bus or whatever. So indeed the Potter story is a true afflatus -- just no divine one.
    Although she did say this, in another interview, and in many biographies, it states that she started making up the story at age six...
    I am not endorsing Harry Potter at all, I am a traditional Catholic who wouldn't think of such a thing!. However, I have read the books and many things associated with Harry Potter, and I just wanted to correct a few points.