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Offline Exfish

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Question about general consensus for Cathinfo active users
« on: June 06, 2013, 11:55:53 PM »
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  • I am new here and I have a friend who is interested in knowing more about this forum. But he is hesitant to join. So he kindly asked me to find out the general feel, you know, the real ambiance regarding sedevacantists and sedeplenists here. I told him I'd ask about it since I am practically new here myself.
    I already read the "refresher and summary"  thread. But it's pretty much boilerplate trad forum stuff: Sedes are welcome, if you don't like sedes stay out of the crisis subforum, etc.etc. And of course the "but we'll ban the dimond brothers followers and their trolls.".

    How are sedeplenists treated here whenever they post stuff like quoting +Williamson: "Sedevacantists and liberals stem from the same error: They exaggerate papal infallibility"?
    Realistically, do these users get shunned or attacked by other posters?
    In case you're wondering, this person is a real trad. No horsing around the subjects regarding the NO mass, doctrine, stuff like that.
    However he is not a sedevacantist.
    Again, I can understand that the registered members here may in their great majority be sedeplenists, but I am talking about the "active" members. The ones who posts frequently. Not the once-a-year-then-go-back-into-lurker-mode users.

    I think this is his main concern and the reason he is wary about joining.

    Well this is as far as I will go out of my way for this guy.
    Thanks.

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    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    Question about general consensus for Cathinfo active users
    « Reply #1 on: June 07, 2013, 12:24:09 AM »
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  • People here like Bishop Williamson (myself included), though the majority of users here disagree with his belief that sedevacantists and libs "stem from the same error".
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #2 on: June 07, 2013, 12:41:46 AM »
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  • Although I have a different opinion than Bp. Williamson regarding the Crisis (I'm a sedevacantist), I have much respect for him, as I do for anyone who absolutely refuses to compromise with the Conciliar Church.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    Question about general consensus for Cathinfo active users
    « Reply #3 on: June 07, 2013, 01:21:48 AM »
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  • He should join and see for himself.  He can always leave, as others have, if he doesn't like the atmosphere, no one need know who he "really" is in the world of flesh and blood.

    That said, I find the active posters here to be a divergent group of people.  Some are tactful, some are not; some are scrappy, some are not; some are highly opinionated, some just throw in their 2 cents.  Overall an educated (in the faith) and thoughtful group who want to live their faith to the best of their ability.

    Marsha

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    Question about general consensus for Cathinfo active users
    « Reply #4 on: June 07, 2013, 01:38:48 AM »
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  • I then, am in the minority - a traditionalist who would agree that sedevacantism is in error. I'm a very new member but I can assure your friend I have never been attacked - nor seen attacked -  for agreeing with the Bishop's position that "Sedevacantists and liberals stem from the same error: They exaggerate papal infallibility"?
    Old-fashioned is good, modern is suicidal.
    - Bishop Richard N. Williamson.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 05:50:24 AM »
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  • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    People here like Bishop Williamson (myself included), though the majority of users here disagree with his belief that sedevacantists and libs "stem from the same error".


    The majority?  I wouldn't go that far.

    There are plenty of non-Sedevacantists on CathInfo, including the (only) moderator and owner, myself.

    I certainly won't tolerate any intolerance of non-Sedevacantists, since that would include myself! CathInfo is not a sedevacantist board. I don't know who started that rumor.

    All Traditional Catholics are welcome on CathInfo, but they must be tolerant of other Traditional Catholics.

    Anyone who believes that God has personally revealed ONE PATH that all Trad. Catholics must follow -- and that other "Traditional Catholic" paths are necessarily sinful, illegitimate, or non-Catholic -- is not welcome on CathInfo.

    The Crisis in the Church did not come with a definitive guide or manual. That much is not open for debate. Therefore, we must give other Traditional Catholics the benefit of the doubt.
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    Offline Exfish

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    Question about general consensus for Cathinfo active users
    « Reply #6 on: June 07, 2013, 12:41:25 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    People here like Bishop Williamson (myself included), though the majority of users here disagree with his belief that sedevacantists and libs "stem from the same error".


    The majority?  I wouldn't go that far.

    There are plenty of non-Sedevacantists on CathInfo, including the (only) moderator and owner, myself.

    I certainly won't tolerate any intolerance of non-Sedevacantists, since that would include myself! CathInfo is not a sedevacantist board. I don't know who started that rumor.



    Thank you very much for all the responses and feedback.
    He will be pleased to hear this.  

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    Question about general consensus for Cathinfo active users
    « Reply #7 on: June 07, 2013, 12:53:50 PM »
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  • Let me get this straight, a friend asked you to do recon work on a web forum?


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    « Reply #8 on: June 07, 2013, 01:39:45 PM »
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  • Quote from: Spork
    Let me get this straight, a friend asked you to do recon work on a web forum?

    That is correct. I joined about two weeks ago. My buddy is currently a member of another forum. I told him about Cathinfo.
    Since I was at FE ("gasp"), Cathinfo is widely known there. In the most negative of ways I might add.
    So when I left that 7th rung of hell, I decided to join here.
    I haven't seen him lately. But that one day I told him I joined this forum, he said he was skeptical because of rumors he has heard relating to non-sedes in this forum.

    Sounds kind of corny, I know. But that's the way it is. And no, I did not join for this purpose.  I am one of the recent fishies that left that homoclub when the Impy/Clare scandal broke.  


    B-t-w: We are not "internet buddies". We actually know each other and converse in real life.


     

    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    Question about general consensus for Cathinfo active users
    « Reply #9 on: June 07, 2013, 01:42:58 PM »
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    I then, am in the minority - a traditionalist who would agree that sedevacantism is in error. I'm a very new member but I can assure your friend I have never been attacked - nor seen attacked -  for agreeing with the Bishop's position that "Sedevacantists and liberals stem from the same error: They exaggerate papal infallibility"?


    I didn't say those here who think sedevacantism is an error are a minority.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    Question about general consensus for Cathinfo active users
    « Reply #10 on: June 07, 2013, 01:47:57 PM »
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  • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
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    I then, am in the minority - a traditionalist who would agree that sedevacantism is in error. I'm a very new member but I can assure your friend I have never been attacked - nor seen attacked -  for agreeing with the Bishop's position that "Sedevacantists and liberals stem from the same error: They exaggerate papal infallibility"?


    I didn't say those here who think sedevacantism is an error are a minority.


    I know. You said that those who agree with that +W statement are a minority. I don't know that your assessment is accurate.
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    « Reply #11 on: June 07, 2013, 02:02:03 PM »
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  • You may be correct, Matthew. Perhaps I should have said "Not everyone agrees with his statement" instead.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #12 on: June 07, 2013, 02:02:09 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
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    I then, am in the minority - a traditionalist who would agree that sedevacantism is in error. I'm a very new member but I can assure your friend I have never been attacked - nor seen attacked -  for agreeing with the Bishop's position that "Sedevacantists and liberals stem from the same error: They exaggerate papal infallibility"?


    I didn't say those here who think sedevacantism is an error are a minority.


    I know. You said that those who agree with that +W statement are a minority. I don't know that your assessment is accurate.


    I tend to agree here. One might say that the statement the Bishop made is a statement of fact for all non-sede traditionalists. Its very easy to see the sede error stems from the as the liberalist/conciliar error; the misunderstanding of the infallibility of the Papacy. If you are a non sede- there are not many other ways of seeing the error of the common sedevecantist position (though the 'position' has changed over the years).

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    « Reply #13 on: June 07, 2013, 02:09:25 PM »
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  • I apologise for any confusion or controversy that my initial post triggered. I shouldn't have said the majority, I have no way of knowing that.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #14 on: June 07, 2013, 02:13:21 PM »
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  • I am not sure if I am a sedevancatist or not. I have learned much here and have found the great majority to be respectful. It is a traditional forum. With that in mind, everyone is welcome.
    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!