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Offline Peter15and1

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Pyramids of Giza
« on: December 28, 2015, 11:51:36 AM »
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  • What was the original purpose of the Pyramids of Giza?  Of course most the secular people today say they were pagan tombs, but Saint Gregory of Tours, and many other medieval clergymen believe that they were built by Joseph as a grain silos in preparation for the famine that is described in Genesis.  St. Mark's Basilica in Venice even has a mosaic depicting this.  Do we know for sure?


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    « Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 10:49:39 PM »
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    There are a lot of YouTube videos made by modern anthropologists and archaeologists on this subject, and it seems to be growing in popularity now that the Great Pyramid and the others at Giza could not have been built for tombs or for grain storage.  

    But neither is there any agreement on what they WERE built for.

    I find it noteworthy that evolutionists don't try to claim they were not built at all, but that the stones just found their way into those positions by natural processes, because that would be more believable than a living cell to have spontaneously emerged from non-living matter.

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    « Reply #2 on: December 29, 2015, 07:59:32 AM »
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  •      'The Ziggurats of Babylon and the Pyramids of Egypt were not simply religious shrines, but were primarily astronomical observatories manned by this Priestly Class. The knowledge which was thus gained was, however, never shared with the people but was kept as a closely guarded secret. The people were kept in ignorance so that the Priestly Orders should always remain dominant.’ --- (Dr. Stuart R. Crane: The Other Religion, 1976)

    The history of the Egyptian cult consists of facts, mysteries and myths. Katarina Emmerick (1774-1823) for example, the Augustinian nun, wrote:

    ‘Semiramis was very highly honoured in Egypt where, by her intrigues and diabolical arts, she greatly contributed to the spread of idolatry. I saw her in Memphis, where human sacrifices are common, plotting and practicing magic and astrology. It was Semiramis who here planned the first pyramid; it was built on the eastern bank of the Nile. The whole nation had to assist in its construction… This building was the centre of Egyptian idolatry, astrology, witchcraft, abominable impurity, astrologers and necromancers calling up spirits of the dead dwelt in the pyramid and there conjured up diabolical visions… But I saw that, even at the coming of Semiramis to Memphis, these people, in their pride had designedly confused the calendar. Their ambition was to take precedence of all other nations in point of time. With this end in view, they drew up a number of complicated calendars and royal genealogical tables. By this means and frequent changes in their computations, order and true chronology were lost. That this confusion might be firmly established, they perpetuated every error by inscriptions and the erection of great buildings. For a long time they reckoned the ages of father and son, as if the date of the former’s demise were that of the latter’s birth. The kings, who waged constant war with the priests on the subject of chronology, inserted among their forefathers the names of persons that never existed. Thus the four kings of the same name who reigned simultaneously in Thebes, Heliopolis, Memphis and Sais were in accordance with the design, reckoned one after the other. I saw too that once they reckoned nine hundred and seventy days to a year, and again, years were computed as months. I saw a pagan priest drawing up a chronological table in which for every five hundred years, eleven hundred were set down.    
         I saw these false computations of the pagan priests at the same time as I beheld Jesus Christ teaching on the Sabbath at Aruma. Jesus, speaking before the Pharisees of the Call of Abraham and his sojourn in Egypt, exposed the errors of the Egyptian calendar. He told them that the world had now existed 4028 years. When I heard Jesus say this, He was Himself thirty-one years old.’    
    (Katarina’s age for Jesus Christ is the exactly the same as found in the Scriptures: Adam 5 days, Noah and the flood 1056 years (2941 BC), Abraham 1950 after creation, Exodus 2540, birth of Jesus 3997, death of Jesus 4030 at 33 years, fall of Jerusalem 4070, 2000 AD at 5997 years old and so on. )

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    « Reply #3 on: December 29, 2015, 08:56:01 AM »
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        'The Ziggurats of Babylon and the Pyramids of Egypt were not simply religious shrines, but were primarily astronomical observatories manned by this Priestly Class. The knowledge which was thus gained was, however, never shared with the people but was kept as a closely guarded secret. The people were kept in ignorance so that the Priestly Orders should always remain dominant.’ --- (Dr. Stuart R. Crane: The Other Religion, 1976)

    The history of the Egyptian cult consists of facts, mysteries and myths. Katarina Emmerick (1774-1823) for example, the Augustinian nun, wrote:

    ‘Semiramis was very highly honoured in Egypt where, by her intrigues and diabolical arts, she greatly contributed to the spread of idolatry. I saw her in Memphis, where human sacrifices are common, plotting and practicing magic and astrology. It was Semiramis who here planned the first pyramid; it was built on the eastern bank of the Nile. The whole nation had to assist in its construction… This building was the centre of Egyptian idolatry, astrology, witchcraft, abominable impurity, astrologers and necromancers calling up spirits of the dead dwelt in the pyramid and there conjured up diabolical visions… But I saw that, even at the coming of Semiramis to Memphis, these people, in their pride had designedly confused the calendar. Their ambition was to take precedence of all other nations in point of time. With this end in view, they drew up a number of complicated calendars and royal genealogical tables. By this means and frequent changes in their computations, order and true chronology were lost. That this confusion might be firmly established, they perpetuated every error by inscriptions and the erection of great buildings. For a long time they reckoned the ages of father and son, as if the date of the former’s demise were that of the latter’s birth. The kings, who waged constant war with the priests on the subject of chronology, inserted among their forefathers the names of persons that never existed. Thus the four kings of the same name who reigned simultaneously in Thebes, Heliopolis, Memphis and Sais were in accordance with the design, reckoned one after the other. I saw too that once they reckoned nine hundred and seventy days to a year, and again, years were computed as months. I saw a pagan priest drawing up a chronological table in which for every five hundred years, eleven hundred were set down.    
         I saw these false computations of the pagan priests at the same time as I beheld Jesus Christ teaching on the Sabbath at Aruma. Jesus, speaking before the Pharisees of the Call of Abraham and his sojourn in Egypt, exposed the errors of the Egyptian calendar. He told them that the world had now existed 4028 years. When I heard Jesus say this, He was Himself thirty-one years old.’    
    (Katarina’s age for Jesus Christ is the exactly the same as found in the Scriptures: Adam 5 days, Noah and the flood 1056 years (2941 BC), Abraham 1950 after creation, Exodus 2540, birth of Jesus 3997, death of Jesus 4030 at 33 years, fall of Jerusalem 4070, 2000 AD at 5997 years old and so on. )


    Intriguing, cassini- is there any reading material on this subject?  

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    « Reply #4 on: December 31, 2015, 12:49:18 PM »
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        'The Ziggurats of Babylon and the Pyramids of Egypt were not simply religious shrines, but were primarily astronomical observatories manned by this Priestly Class. The knowledge which was thus gained was, however, never shared with the people but was kept as a closely guarded secret. The people were kept in ignorance so that the Priestly Orders should always remain dominant.’ --- (Dr. Stuart R. Crane: The Other Religion, 1976)

    The history of the Egyptian cult consists of facts, mysteries and myths. Katarina Emmerick (1774-1823) for example, the Augustinian nun, wrote:

    ‘Semiramis was very highly honoured in Egypt where, by her intrigues and diabolical arts, she greatly contributed to the spread of idolatry. I saw her in Memphis, where human sacrifices are common, plotting and practicing magic and astrology. It was Semiramis who here planned the first pyramid; it was built on the eastern bank of the Nile. The whole nation had to assist in its construction… This building was the centre of Egyptian idolatry, astrology, witchcraft, abominable impurity, astrologers and necromancers calling up spirits of the dead dwelt in the pyramid and there conjured up diabolical visions… But I saw that, even at the coming of Semiramis to Memphis, these people, in their pride had designedly confused the calendar. Their ambition was to take precedence of all other nations in point of time. With this end in view, they drew up a number of complicated calendars and royal genealogical tables. By this means and frequent changes in their computations, order and true chronology were lost. That this confusion might be firmly established, they perpetuated every error by inscriptions and the erection of great buildings. For a long time they reckoned the ages of father and son, as if the date of the former’s demise were that of the latter’s birth. The kings, who waged constant war with the priests on the subject of chronology, inserted among their forefathers the names of persons that never existed. Thus the four kings of the same name who reigned simultaneously in Thebes, Heliopolis, Memphis and Sais were in accordance with the design, reckoned one after the other. I saw too that once they reckoned nine hundred and seventy days to a year, and again, years were computed as months. I saw a pagan priest drawing up a chronological table in which for every five hundred years, eleven hundred were set down.    
         I saw these false computations of the pagan priests at the same time as I beheld Jesus Christ teaching on the Sabbath at Aruma. Jesus, speaking before the Pharisees of the Call of Abraham and his sojourn in Egypt, exposed the errors of the Egyptian calendar. He told them that the world had now existed 4028 years. When I heard Jesus say this, He was Himself thirty-one years old.’    
    (Katarina’s age for Jesus Christ is the exactly the same as found in the Scriptures: Adam 5 days, Noah and the flood 1056 years (2941 BC), Abraham 1950 after creation, Exodus 2540, birth of Jesus 3997, death of Jesus 4030 at 33 years, fall of Jerusalem 4070, 2000 AD at 5997 years old and so on. )


    Intriguing, cassini- is there any reading material on this subject?  


    Croagh Patrick (St Patrick's sacred mountain in the west of Ireland for those who do not know)

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    I'm sure there are Croagh Patrick but hardly concerning Katarina Emmerick's remarks. My interest in ancient pagan Egypt was in their sun-worshipping and astronomy. Here are a few pieces I found here and there:

    ‘Astronomy being held in such esteem in Egypt, it is not surprising that it was taught to Moses who was raised as a Prince Royal of the care of the daughter of Pharaoh. Clement of Alexandria says that Moses made great progress in this science, and that he later taught it to the Jєωs. Thus astronomy having come from Chaldea into Egypt, passed from Egypt into Judea, and was in a short time carried into Phoenicia and into all the neighbouring countries.’ (J.D. Cassini: The Progress of Astronomy and its Use for Geography and in Navigation, Paris, 1693)

    A pal introduced me to the Rev. Alex Hislop's The Two Babylons, Loizeau Bros, Roma, 1862 from which he shows the origin of ancient paganism:

    ‘Ninus is said to have been the son of Belus or Bel, and Bel is said to have been the founder of Babylon… If Ninus was Nimrod, then who was the historical Bel? He must have been Cush; for “Cush begat Nimrod” (Gen. X.8), and Cush is generally represented as having been the ringleader in the great apostasy. But again, Cush, as the son of Ham, was Her-mes or Mercury; for Hermes is just an Egyptian synonym for the “son of Ham.” Now, Hermes was the great original prophet of idolatry; for he was recognised by the pagans as the author of their religious rites, and the interpreter of the gods… Mercury then, or Hermes, or Cush, “the son of Ham,” was the “DIVIDER of the speeches of men.” He, it would seem, had been the ringleader in the scheme for building the great city and tower of Babel; and, as the well-known title of Hermes, -“the interpreter of the gods,” would indicate, had encouraged them, in the name of God, to proceed in their presumptuous enterprise, and so had caused the language of men to be divided, and themselves to be scattered abroad on the face of the earth…  That Cush was known to pagan antiquity under the very character of Bel “The Confounder,” a statement of Ovid very clearly proves. The statement to which I refer is that in which Janus “the god of gods,” from whom all the other gods had their origin, is made to say of himself “the ancients…called me Chaos.” Now, first this decisively shows that Chaos was known not merely as a state of confusion, but also as the “god of Confusion.” But secondly, who that is at all acquainted with the laws of Chaldaic pronunciation, does not know that Chaos is just one of the established forms of the name of Chūs or Cush?’  

    In Genesis 10:3 we read Cham, the cursed son of Noah, begot Chus, Mesraim, Phut and Chanaan. It was Mesraim who founded Egypt, and Chus became Hermēs, Lucifer’s own philosopher, high priest and king, original prophet of idolatry, author of satanic religious rites and interpreter of the gods, founder of the Mysteries, and propagator of chaos in post-deluge times. It is the rebellious Cham-line coming from the righteous God-fearing Noah that is generally referred to as hermetic.

     Here is some on their version of the Zodiac with a reference:

    ‘The sun thus deified and personified was made the theme of allegorical history, emblematic of his yearly passage through the twelve constellations. The zodiac is the apparent path of the sun among the stars. It was divided by the ancients into twelve different parts, composed of the clusters of stars named after “living creatures,” typical of the twelve months….
         The sun, as he pursued his way among these “living creatures” of the zodiac, was said, in allegorical language, either to assume the nature of or to triumph over the sign he entered. The sun thus became a bull in Taurus, and was worshipped as such by the Egyptians under the name of Apis, and by the Assyrians as Bel, Baal, or Bul. In Leo the sun became a lion-slayer, Hercules, and an archer in Sagittarius. In Pisces, the fishes – he was a fish – Dagon, or Vishnu, the fish-god of the Philistines and Hindoos. When the sun enters Capricornus he reaches his lowest southern declination; afterwards as he emerges from that sign the days become longer, and the sun grows rapidly in light and heat; hence we are told in the mythology that the sun, or Jupiter, was suckled by a goat…The beautiful virgin of the Zodiac, Virgo, together with the Moon, under a score of different names, furnishes the female element in these mythological stories, the wonderful adventures of the Gods. These fables are most of them absurd enough if understood as real histories, but the allegorical key being given, many of them are found to contain profound and sublime astronomical truths. This key was religiously kept secret by the priests and philosophers, and was only imparted to those initiated into the MYSTERIES. The profane and vulgar crowd were kept in darkness, and believed in and worshipped a real Hercules or Jupiter, whom they thought actually lived and performed all the exploits and underwent all the transformations of the mythology. By these means the Priests of Egypt ruled the people with a despotic power.’ Robert Hewitt Brown: Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy, D Appleton & Co, (1882).

    ‘The people worshiped the sun, moon, and stars as gods, and a knowledge of their true nature would have at once put an end to the influence of the priests, who were believed by the ignorant and superstitious crowd to be able to withhold or dispense, by prayers, invocations, and sacrifices, the divine favor. The priest of a pretended god, when once his god is exposed, stands before the world a convicted impostor. To deny the divinity of the sun, moon, and stars, or, what was the same thing, to permit science to disclose their true nature to the masses of the people was consequently held by the priesthood of Egypt as the highest of crimes. By knowledge of astronomy the priests were able to calculate and to predict eclipses of the sun and moon, events beheld with superstitious awe and fear by the multitude. Seeing how certainly these pre-dictions, when thus made, were fulfilled, the priests were credited with the power to foretell other events, and to look into the future generally. So they cast horoscopes and assumed to be prophets.’ ( Robert Hewitt Brown: Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy, p.9.)

    Here is a great video by Crane: I was given tapes of this years ago and I listened to them in my car for years.