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Offline jman123

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Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
« on: January 16, 2015, 05:17:54 PM »
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    Offline Elizabeth

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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #1 on: January 16, 2015, 10:52:56 PM »
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    •  :shocked:

    THANK YOU for posting this, dearest Jman.  Thank You.

    jaw dropping...
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    Offline PerEvangelicaDicta

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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #2 on: January 17, 2015, 12:30:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: jman123
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=WehqTwn600Q&app=desktop

    This is shocking.



    It says "a pablothemexican production" ?
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    Offline Eternal Peace

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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #3 on: January 17, 2015, 02:04:51 AM »
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    • consecration ws already done by pius xii
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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #4 on: January 17, 2015, 02:18:35 AM »
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    • Well there you have it, straight from TGI Fridays!

     :ready-to-eat:
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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #5 on: January 17, 2015, 04:39:10 AM »
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    • This is excellent. The only way the crisis will end is the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart, by the Pope and the Bishops. Heaven has willed it so, and these last 50, indeed last 100 years, are nothing other than God saying to us, This is what happens to you when you ignore My Mother.

    Interviewed some years ago in the Fatima Crusader, Fr. Kramer said it would be the Pope after Benedict XVI who would consecrate Russia.

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    I would refer to the testimony of the Roman stigmatist, Antonio Ruffini. Pope Pius XII authorized the blessing of a chapel on the spot where Ruffini received the stigmata on the Via Appia, and Father Tomaselli, the miracle worker, wrote a booklet about him — a short account of the life of Ruffini. I myself knew Ruffini for many years. In the early 1990s Ruffini was asked point blank in his home: “Is John Paul II the Pope who is going to do the Consecration of Russia?” He answered: “No, it’s not John Paul. It will not be his immediate successor either, but the one after that. He is the one who will consecrate Russia.” That is, Benedict’s successor, during this time of world war and persecution of the Church, will be the one to do the Consecration at long last, and then the restoration and the triumph of the Immaculate Heart will begin.
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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #6 on: January 17, 2015, 06:23:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: Nishant
    This is excellent. The only way the crisis will end is the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart, by the Pope and the Bishops. Heaven has willed it so, and these last 50, indeed last 100 years, are nothing other than God saying to us, This is what happens to you when you ignore My Mother.

    Interviewed some years ago in the Fatima Crusader, Fr. Kramer said it would be the Pope after Benedict XVI who would consecrate Russia.

    Quote from: Fr. Kramer
    I would refer to the testimony of the Roman stigmatist, Antonio Ruffini. Pope Pius XII authorized the blessing of a chapel on the spot where Ruffini received the stigmata on the Via Appia, and Father Tomaselli, the miracle worker, wrote a booklet about him — a short account of the life of Ruffini. I myself knew Ruffini for many years. In the early 1990s Ruffini was asked point blank in his home: “Is John Paul II the Pope who is going to do the Consecration of Russia?” He answered: “No, it’s not John Paul. It will not be his immediate successor either, but the one after that. He is the one who will consecrate Russia.” That is, Benedict’s successor, during this time of world war and persecution of the Church, will be the one to do the Consecration at long last, and then the restoration and the triumph of the Immaculate Heart will begin.


    Interesting. Thanks for posting.


    Let's analyze this video for a second............. Fr. said Putin was there on official business, not there to discuss Fatima, yet they not only discussed Fatima, Putin, of all people, asked about the consecration and was shut down by, of all people, the pope. And then a cardinal standing by a statue of Our Lady of Fatima said "we will destroy Fatima", and the top man in Russia, Putin, is perhaps the only Christian leader in the world left.

    All this information he received through diplomatic channels and from a priest who believes Francis is not pope, he believes Benedict XVI is still pope - and this is officially brought to us via pablo  at a TGI Fridays.

    I don't think I consider it all that reliable.

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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #7 on: January 17, 2015, 06:39:07 AM »
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    • Yeeeees!


         :dancing-banana: :dancing-banana: :jumping2: :jumping2: :dancing-banana: :dancing-banana:


    Clearly, Putin got my letter!




    ...pretty disgusting how it seems that the current folks in Rome despise Fatima.  If the video is true, that is.




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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #8 on: January 17, 2015, 10:04:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: LaramieHirsch
    Yeeeees!


         :dancing-banana: :dancing-banana: :jumping2: :jumping2: :dancing-banana: :dancing-banana:


    Clearly, Putin got my letter!




    ...pretty disgusting how it seems that the current folks in Rome despise Fatima.  If the video is true, that is.






    I too wrote a letter to Putin
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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #9 on: January 17, 2015, 11:33:58 AM »
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    • Fr Kramer calls Putin a Christian?  Isn't Putin a schismatic Orthodox?

    I have a hard time believing that, if Putin asked about Fatima, Putin has good intentions regarding Fatima.  
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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #10 on: January 17, 2015, 11:44:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=WehqTwn600Q&app=desktop

    This is shocking.



    It says "a pablothemexican production" ?


    I saw that too....
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    Offline Elizabeth

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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #11 on: January 17, 2015, 01:29:51 PM »
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    Putin didn't ask FOR the consecration of Russia. He asked ABOUT it. Nothing shocking about that.

    Nothing shocking about hearing the Vatican doesn't care to talk about Fatima.

    What is shocking to me is that this priest thinks the Communists are no longer in power in Russia. What a deception!


    Fr. Kramer speaks Russian and reads everything; he has excellent access and sources...I don't consider him deceptive at all.
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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #12 on: January 17, 2015, 01:34:30 PM »
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    All this information he received through diplomatic channels and from a priest who believes Francis is not pope, he believes Benedict XVI is still pope - and this is officially brought to us via pablo  at a TGI Fridays.

    I don't think I consider it all that reliable.



    What precisely would you consider reliable, aside from Pablo cooties, TGI Friday cooties, diplomatic cooties ?  
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    Offline Elizabeth

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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #13 on: January 17, 2015, 01:40:22 PM »
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    Well there you have it, straight from TGI Fridays!

     :ready-to-eat:


    So what? Is it a sin to be there?
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    Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia
    « Reply #14 on: January 17, 2015, 02:29:02 PM »
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    • Elizabeth:
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    Fr. Kramer speaks Russian and reads everything; he has excellent access and sources...I don't consider him deceptive at all.


    Not so fast!  2Vermont and Nado apparently aren't buying it.  And you know important their opinions are :roll-laugh2:
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