Author Topic: Protestantism: the source of our contemporary problems (Read 689 times)

PaulLuke · « **on:** November 28, 2012, 08:25:29 AM »

I was recently thinking about all of the problems in society: the immorality, religious indifferentism, secularism, liberalism, materialism, self-centeredness, republicanism/democracy (I'm a monarchist), the demeaning of Holy Mother Church, the widespread spurning of the One True Faith, etc. I thought I saw in there a common theme: Protestantism. I know that before Protestants much of the non-European world was still pagan or Mohammedan and that heresy was always coming and going, but all the problems I listed above seem to be related to Protestantism to some degree. Don't get me wrong, I know that all of our evils are due to our fallen nature and Lucifer's "non serviam", but they were never so institutionalized in Christendom before Luther.

I was wondering if anyone has read anything related to these ideas, tracing the Protestant Revolt to our society's current problems. I am very interested to see if more extensive research and thought has been given to all the evils that have been wrought by the Protestants in their nearly 500 years of existence.

Thanks!

Alex117 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 28, 2012, 11:15:21 AM »

I recommend reading the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution by Prof. Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira. In the book, he shows how Protestantism, the French Revolution, Communism, etc. are all connected, and are apart of a single, transitioning, and organic event that he calls "the Revolution".

It truly is an eye opening book, and it is quite well written. It is relatively short (I think it was originally a magazine article), and you can read it here, if you're interested. The website Tradition In Action also has many articles written by Prof. Oliveira, if you want to know the Professor's thoughts on other things.

Alex117 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 28, 2012, 11:42:57 AM »

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In the book, he shows how Protestantism, the French Revolution, Communism, etc. are all connected, and are apart of a single, transitioning, and organic event that he calls "the Revolution".

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PaulLuke · « **Reply #3 on:** November 28, 2012, 07:10:04 PM »

Quote from: Alex117

I recommend reading the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution by Prof. Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira. In the book, he shows how Protestantism, the French Revolution, Communism, etc. are all connected, and are apart of a single, transitioning, and organic event that he calls "the Revolution".

It truly is an eye opening book, and it is quite well written. It is relatively short (I think it was originally a magazine article), and you can read it here, if you're interested. The website Tradition In Action also has many articles written by Prof. Oliveira, if you want to know the Professor's thoughts on other things.

Thanks, I'll have to give it a read!

songbird · « **Reply #4 on:** November 28, 2012, 07:23:52 PM »

I say the root of it is mentioned in Chapter 12 of Daniel. The Precious Blood is decreasing. Til one day there will be no continual sacrifice and the Precious Blood is in all the sacraments. As it comes to an end, we get more evil and we will find out one day what it will be like to have no Precious Blood. When Christ died and His Blood and Water flowed from His side, the earth quaked, rocks split, people rose from the dead and it was dark. The Less powers the worse things will get. That is why the enemy will do anything to stop the Precious Blood, The Power.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #5 on:** November 28, 2012, 08:58:39 PM »

Lutheranism, the first sect to have inaugurated the Protestant revolt against the Apostolic See and Christendom, could indeed be seen as that which has caused the most damage in Europe throughout the ages, affecting everything from theological doctrine to philosophy to economy to commerce to popular culture, etc. This is, in part, because it synthesized and further transmogrified the errors of the heresiarchs of previous ages (i. e., Pelagianism, nominalism, etc.). It was, in a real sense, an prototype of modernism.

Much has been written about the impact of the Protestant revolt by authors such as Chesterton and Belloc.

One of the greatest and most tragic errors of Lutheranism and Protestantism in general is how it has debased the notion of grace, one of the most important and pervasive questions of theological discourse. This, in turn, has influenced exceedingly how the posterior ages, especially present day modernity (or, post-modernity) views grace and the supernatural in general. This erroneous theological and spiritual orientation explains very much why the world today is as rotten as it is.

Rev. Father Garrigou-Lagrange in his work Three Ways of the Spiritual Life [Les trois conversions et les trois voies], (Westminster, MD: Newman Press, 1950), shows how the Lutheran heretics have degraded the notion of grace and what is the true nature of supernatural grace according to the teaching of the Church.

Take special note of the footnotes on pp. 5-6.