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Offline Iuvenalis

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What would you do
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2013, 11:08:47 PM »
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  • Get out the wine and see if I can get him plastered. After a good bottle of scotch (or the libration of his choice) maybe I could get the *real* Third Secret out of him. In Vino Veritas and all...


    Offline Gaudium in Space

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    « Reply #16 on: September 15, 2013, 11:53:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: MyrnaM

    I wouldn't bow to him either, or to any known Freemason, no matter what.  

    Bow to the enemy of God, with God's grace never.

    If he bowed to me, or any man for that fact bowed to me, I would probably be in the state of shock, and pretend I didn't know the man.  I would be too upset to pray my rosary, upset that he even came to my door.  

    True fact about myself:  I have a difficult time praying when I am upset.  This is why I have an imaginary prayer bank account in heaven, and when I am very upset about something and can't pray, I rely on my savings of prayers.  

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    EEK, I just did a search on Casual Frank and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ


    This is from a Masonic blog

    masonictimes (dot) blogspot (dot) com/2013/03/freemasons-attending-pope-francis (dot) html
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    Freemasons attending Pope Francis' enthronement as Vatican's Sovereign
    Tuesday, 19 March 2013
    He is not the first Catholic Pope to have Brethren attending his enthronement ceremony after being elected ruler of the Vatican State and spiritual leader of the Roman-Catholic Church. This is not a news for those feeling the need to consider it a conspiracy theory.

    Many of those attending the important event (both social and ecuмenical - due to Patriarch Bartholomew's presence and of that of other Orthodox Churches ) were there as Ambassadors, Heads of State (Sovereigns and Presidents) and Government etc. Also the Grand Master of Malta was there, as the Sovereign Order of Malta is part of Rome's Chivalric Orders. Of all those in St. Peter's square one of the guests (head of state) is Most Worshipful Grand Master of a Grand Lodge.

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    Have you seen the "hidden hand" picture of Francis?

    Picture useful be here http://news.yahoo.com/pope-revives-latino-134354010.html

    Reference to 'hidden hand' pose throughout history
    http://sosymbol.tumblr.com/post/9552937392/the-hidden-hand-of-history



    Offline Gaudium in Space

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    What would you do
    « Reply #17 on: September 16, 2013, 12:16:55 AM »
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  • OK I found it



    http://defeatmodernism.com/defeatmodernism/popefrancis

    I don't take this hidden hand pose as seriously as his other numerous questionable actions. It's possible this was an accident. Then again   :scratchchin:  :confused1:

    I thought I was going to have a somewhat quiet, undisturbed night  :tv-disturbed:

    What's he going to do tomorrow?

    and how will I explain the next heresy or screwball speech to the Protestants I know? :barf:

    Offline Meg

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    « Reply #18 on: September 16, 2013, 10:50:22 AM »
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  • I would ignore the bowing thing, since I don't understand what that means, and I would invite him in and offer him a cup of tea or coffee. I would also ask why he was visiting me. Then I would ask if I could ask him a few questions, such as:

    1) Why do seem to believe that traditionalists are Pelagian? Have you tried to understand their concerns?

    2) Why do you believe that the changes brought about by the Council are a good thing?

    3) Are you aware of the importance of the Papacy, and that as Pope you are called upon to proclaim the truths of the faith in a clear and unambiguous manner?

    4) Why did you not allow the TLM to be properly celebrated in your diocese in Argentina? Yes, I'm aware that it was celebrated, but lay lectors gave Novus Ordo readings, which goes against the norm for the TLM.

    5) Do you believe in the Real Presence?

    6) What changes are you planning to try to implement in the Church?

    IMO, Pope Francis does not take his job seriously. It seems like a game to him, and he's quite childish as times. Maybe that will change and it will dawn on him that he's the leader of Christendom, and that as such, he has great responsibilities. Though it's possible that he has a modernist agenda that that he DOES take seriously.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29