Author Topic: PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY AND HOME FROM ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC (Read 1736 times)

cosmas · « **on:** August 15, 2013, 08:10:06 PM »

DOES ANYONE KNOW THE TRADITIONAL CHURCH TEACHING ON THE RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO TAKE YOUR HOME PROTECTION FROM YOU, THAT YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOUR FAMILY ie; WIFE CHILDREN ETC. ULTIMATELY YOUR FAITH BECAUSE THE REASON THEY WOULD BE TAKING YOUR PROTECTION FROM YOU WOULD BE TO ENSLAVE YOU POSSIBLY KILL AND RAPE AND KILL YOUR WIFE AND FAMILY OR MAKE SLAVES OF THEM. THEY ALSO WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY KEEP YOU FROM MASS, SHUT DOWN THE CHURCHES ETC..

ggreg · « **Reply #1 on:** August 15, 2013, 08:17:56 PM »

Yes, but Canon law specifically prohibits telling the secret to morons who keep their Caps Lock on the whole time in every post.

Those annoying people need to be eradicated from the gene pool by the forces of the Antichrist.

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #2 on:** August 15, 2013, 08:37:33 PM »

You have to defend yourself and your home; arm yourself, son. That said, once you arm yourself, you have to teach gun safety to everyone in the home. Even those who swear they'd never touch a gun will be likely to run for it if they hear a noise, then boom, they've shot a siblng or parent. (We keep our weapons put up but within reach, and as the kids come of age, they go to the range and learn to douple-tap.)

We don't listen to the police about putting someone to death, though; we don't care about potential lawsuits from "injured" perps (come on, you'd WIN that case!) as much as the perp having a conditional Baptism before death; we don't care to be directly responsible for a soul dropping to Hell. But it depends on the situation: if someone huge is in your home and about to hurt a child, double-tap to the head, call 911. God can sort such things out.

You should also (imo) teach your children non-gun self-defense. It's gross, but thumbs through the eyes, while it may not prevent rape (I think it will), will certainly discourage the rapist from doing so again. (We had a guy who used hard fruit and made the kids learn what it felt like to push thumbs through eyes, and ...other less savory-sounding skills.) That's for when your children get older and have to defend themselves. Sounds gross, but can potentially keep people safe.

And um, turn the caps-lock off. :pop:

Incredulous · « **Reply #3 on:** August 15, 2013, 11:45:39 PM »

To try and answer your specific question Cosmas:

V Commandment:Thou Shalt Not Kill

Commands: safeguarding of one's own life and bodily welfare and that of others.

Forbids: unjust killing, ѕυιcιdє, abortion, sterilization, dueling, endangering life and limb of self or others.

For an usurper president's shock troops, to the Chinese Red army....

Keep your family Rosaries, Sacramentals and self defense weapons close and ready.

As the end of the 5th Age of the Church comes to a close, both Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser and Alois Irlmaier saw where God fearing, Catholic Americans would ultimately prevail over their enemies.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2013, 12:22:51 AM »

Quote from: cosmas

DOES ANYONE KNOW THE TRADITIONAL CHURCH TEACHING ON THE RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO TAKE YOUR HOME PROTECTION FROM YOU, THAT YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOUR FAMILY ie; WIFE CHILDREN ETC. ULTIMATELY YOUR FAITH BECAUSE THE REASON THEY WOULD BE TAKING YOUR PROTECTION FROM YOU WOULD BE TO ENSLAVE YOU POSSIBLY KILL AND RAPE AND KILL YOUR WIFE AND FAMILY OR MAKE SLAVES OF THEM. THEY ALSO WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY KEEP YOU FROM MASS, SHUT DOWN THE CHURCHES ETC..

are you referring to our government wanting to take gun rights away from us?

cosmas · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2013, 09:37:41 AM »

Yes, Infinite Faith,
That is the question i'm asking. I've been told by two Priests in confessional in St . Mary's that we should give them up. That the U.S. is beyond saving. They quoted ST. THOMAS AQUINAS. They said, only if you have a reasonable chance of winning can you fight. I was always taught to defend, first family, then home, then country. If and when they come to collect. I will die fighting because when that time comes the U.S. will have been totally taken over by anti-christs who want to enslave us. So ultimately you are dying for your faith. What better way to go.

ancien regime · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2013, 12:05:58 PM »

Quote from: cosmas

Yes, Infinite Faith,
That is the question i'm asking. I've been told by two Priests in confessional in St . Mary's that we should give them up. That the U.S. is beyond saving. They quoted ST. THOMAS AQUINAS. They said, only if you have a reasonable chance of winning can you fight. I was always taught to defend, first family, then home, then country. If and when they come to collect. I will die fighting because when that time comes the U.S. will have been totally taken over by anti-christs who want to enslave us. So ultimately you are dying for your faith. What better way to go.

All I can say is "shame on those two priests."

It is interesting to note that the Third Order of St. Dominic started as the Militia of Jesus Christ while St. Dominic was still alive.

Here is a passage from the book Dominican Life by Fr. D. Joret, O.P.:

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As early as the year 1206 certain laymen banded themselves together, at the request of our blessed Father's [St. Dominic] friend, Bishop Foulques, under the title of "Militia of Jesus Christ." They were truly knights wearing the white tunic and the black cloak, and pledged themselves to fight in defence of the faith, the rights of the Church and all Catholic interests. This knightly body had the direct benefit of St. Dominic's direction. Introduced into Lombardy, it became very flourishing, and in 1235 Pope Gregory IX advised St. Dominic's successor, Blessed Jordan of Saxony, to make careful provision for its spiritual direction. The "Militia of Jesus Christ" is commonly regarded as the original form of the Third Order, on the strength of a statement to that effect in Blessed Raymund of Capua's life of St. Catherine of Siena.

The rule for the Third Order from 1439 as sanctioned by Pope Eugene IV in section XIII - Concerning the Prohibition on the Carrying of Arms, states:

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The Brothers will not carry any offensive and aggressive weapon, unless for the defence of the Christian Faith, or some other justifiable motive . . ."

The current traditional rule is generally silent regarding weapons.

So, this modern tendency towards pacifism, is just that, a "modern" tendency. The Church Militant has always been a robust defender of the faith and personal honor. Go tell those early female martyrs who literally fought to the death against being raped that they should fight only when they have a "reasonable" chance of winning. Go tell that to the crusaders who knew when they left Europe to go defend the Holy Land that their odds of ever returning were slim to none.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2013, 12:37:11 PM »

Quote from: cosmas

Yes, Infinite Faith,
That is the question i'm asking. I've been told by two Priests in confessional in St . Mary's that we should give them up. That the U.S. is beyond saving. They quoted ST. THOMAS AQUINAS. They said, only if you have a reasonable chance of winning can you fight. I was always taught to defend, first family, then home, then country. If and when they come to collect. I will die fighting because when that time comes the U.S. will have been totally taken over by anti-christs who want to enslave us. So ultimately you are dying for your faith. What better way to go.

The neo-SSPX has sold us out.

Incredulous · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2013, 02:08:40 PM »

Quote from: cosmas

Yes, Infinite Faith,
That is the question i'm asking. I've been told by two Priests in confessional in St . Mary's that we should give them up. That the U.S. is beyond saving. They quoted ST. THOMAS AQUINAS. They said, only if you have a reasonable chance of winning can you fight. I was always taught to defend, first family, then home, then country. If and when they come to collect. I will die fighting because when that time comes the U.S. will have been totally taken over by anti-christs who want to enslave us. So ultimately you are dying for your faith. What better way to go.

Ancien Regime is right.

I'll advance the argument a step further:

This priestly advice to surrender, demonstrates a consistent "moral policy" that must have been formulated and passed down from their European born ExSPX superiors.

Think about it. This policy is in perfect accordance with Msgr. Fellay's intentions to surrender the remnant of Catholic Tradition to Conciliarism.

A 160,000+ American soldiers buried on French soil... and the ExSPX superiors are advising the faithful to surrender to their NWO gov't. before a shot is fired ?

What profound cowards!

ExSPX faithful... you are being led by dupes.

Historically, the majority ethnic mix of white Americans is German/Irish.
Two cultures with a track record for being fighters.

St. Joan of Arc, please pray for us!

Intercede with our Lord for Msgr. Fellay.
We pray that the Superior General of the SSPX and his minions, be blessed with contrite hearts, resign their positions and enter monasteries.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2013, 03:00:44 PM »

Quote from: cosmas

Yes, Infinite Faith,
That is the question i'm asking. I've been told by two Priests in confessional in St . Mary's that we should give them up. That the U.S. is beyond saving. They quoted ST. THOMAS AQUINAS. They said, only if you have a reasonable chance of winning can you fight. I was always taught to defend, first family, then home, then country. If and when they come to collect. I will die fighting because when that time comes the U.S. will have been totally taken over by anti-christs who want to enslave us. So ultimately you are dying for your faith. What better way to go.

I have been preaching cινιℓ ωαr on this forum for a few months now. I think its now or never. We need to teach these liberal Jєω supporters what happens the second they start trying to take our guns away. I firmly believe we can win, and it is for a good cause.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2013, 03:10:30 PM »

You really go out of your way to sound like a troll, if you aren't one.

Matto · « **Reply #11 on:** August 16, 2013, 03:14:45 PM »

Quote from: InfiniteFaith

I have been preaching cινιℓ ωαr on this forum for a few months now. I think its now or never. We need to teach these liberal Jєω supporters what happens the second they start trying to take our guns away. I firmly believe we can win, and it is for a good cause.

Anyone who rebels will have tanks on their doorstep the next day and will be killed just like the folks at Waco.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #12 on:** August 16, 2013, 03:17:24 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

You really go out of your way to sound like a troll, if you aren't one.

Me? or the OP?

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #13 on:** August 16, 2013, 03:18:30 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: InfiniteFaith
I have been preaching cινιℓ ωαr on this forum for a few months now. I think its now or never. We need to teach these liberal Jєω supporters what happens the second they start trying to take our guns away. I firmly believe we can win, and it is for a good cause.

Anyone who rebels will have tanks on their doorstep the next day and will be killed just like the folks at Waco.

I'm not so sure. I think the right people are in control of our military. I don't think they would obey the wrong people. If anything they would turn against them.

Matto · « **Reply #14 on:** August 16, 2013, 03:19:56 PM »

Quote from: InfiniteFaith

I'm not so sure. I think the right people are in control of our military. I don't think they would obey the wrong people. If anything they would turn against them.

I have no faith in our military. If ordered I think they would fire on American citizens no different from how they kill Arabs or Afghans.