Great. I just can't wait to have priests using NFP.

In marriage there is divorce, pedophila, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, beastiality,  and swingers.  Tv and Hollywood promotes it while Rome condones with silence.

Quote from: Cantarella

Priestly Celibacy in the Vatican open for discussion, given that priestly celibacy is not considered Church dogma.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/11/20433950-pope-francis-no-2-clerical-celibacy-is-open-to-discussion?lite

What think you?

The question of celibacy is a discipline not a dogma.

Let's not be minimalists here.  Just because something is categorized as a discipline doesn't mean it should be subject to the winds of irrelevancy.

A celibate priest has consecrated himself, body and soul, to Our Lord and the Holy Church.  A married priest is a divided priest who spends the majority of his day pleasing a creature.  

Like every other change, and I am not sure this episode isn't just to be provocative, a change in discipline would implicitly teach that everything that has gone before was at least a quasi-mistake and is to be treated, hitherto, as just one step above bunkum.  You can see this attitude at work in the way Pope Francis spoke in such a dismissive way about the group of trads who prayed approx. 30,000 rosaries for him.  To Pope Francis, this was an old and discarded way of being Catholic and the people who adhere to these practices are to be ignored and dismissed.

Please... there are already fαɢɢօt presiders; I'm sure some of them have "special people" that they feel they are "joined to" in some deep and mysterious way, even though the big bad nasty Conciliar church won't let them marry.

Brace yourselves, friends. The common, accepted, popular definition of what it means to be "Catholic" is going to change again, so much so that there will be not a SHRED of anything left in the JєωMason Conciliar religion that is truly Catholic.

Celibacy will go, they will ordain and marry openly sinful fαɢɢօts with no scruples of conscience or talk about continence.

They will do away with Marian devotions altogether. Images of Christ Crucified will be done away with totally, as the apostates begin to insist upon presenting "Jesus" as a teacher, leader, helper, but in no way the Divine any more than anyone else can be who realizes their own specialness.

You won't be able to call yourself Catholic around your friends and neighbors anymore, because what that word means will no longer resemble anything you know to be true.

It's only a matter of time. Soon Frank the Humble will outlaw ALL Tridentine Masses and will excommunicate anyone who wants to offer them AT ALL.

Anyone you meet who finds out you belong to one of those groups will have been conditioned to be disgusted and offended by people like you, because the NewVatican PR machine will make traditional Catholics look like Protestants who are disobedient to the rulers.

He's the Pope like I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Kyrie eleison.

Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

If that's all they were talking about, it would be the least of my concerns.  Eastern Rites have always allowed married priests, and even St. Paul writes that bishops should be the husbands of one wife (i.e. no polygamy or remarriage).  On the plus side, having children can teach one to love in a way that's not possible for most men to experience without children, leading to priests who could in fact care more about their spiritual children, i.e. who were more "fatherly" to them than they otherwise could have been.