So, I went to Mass this morning at the chapel where I work.

I went up to the priest (I think he's from India, or thereabouts).  I bowed to revere the Eucharist.  He looked down at my hands, and he was puzzled I was not opening my hands to unworthily hold the Host he was willing to hand to me.  He said nothing--perhaps at a loss for words.  I spoke, and said "Amen."  I opened my mouth, and without saying anything, he popped the Host in.  Didn't say "Body of Christ" or anything.  

I don't understand why he would be confused or shocked.  Plenty of times, I went to Mass and took the Eucharist in the same manner.  Sunday after Sunday, in fact.  Why his confusion today?

Is it still valid?  I think it is, but just checking.  That's the spirit of the Novus Ordo Mass for ya, I guess.

So, I went to Mass this morning at the chapel where I work.

I went up to the priest (I think he's from India, or thereabouts).  I bowed to revere the Eucharist.  He looked down at my hands, and he was puzzled I was not opening my hands to unworthily hold the Host he was willing to hand to me.  He said nothing--perhaps at a loss for words.  I spoke, and said "Amen."  I opened my mouth, and without saying anything, he popped the Host in.  Didn't say "Body of Christ" or anything.  

I don't understand why he would be confused or shocked.  Plenty of times, I went to Mass and took the Eucharist in the same manner.  Sunday after Sunday, in fact.  Why his confusion today?

Is it still valid?  I think it is, but just checking.  That's the spirit of the Novus Ordo Mass for ya, I guess.

Exaclty, what do you expect? Why do you go to the Novus Ordo?

I work 16-hour shifts on Saturdays and Sundays at a Catholic Hospital.

Then you're absolved from your Sunday obligation, due to work. But try to make it to a TLM during the week to receive Our Lord regularly.

Novus Ordo = no Mass

Can't speak for everyone here but as you read you will get an idea that some/most (not sure how many) feel the novus ordo is not catholic.  

Interesting today at our Mass, we have a newly ordained priest, who was a priest in the novus ordo but left several years ago, because he realized, by the grace of God that he was never properly ordained, and therefore not a priest at all.  This past June he was ordained with the old rite of ordination.  

Today he gave a sermon and mentioned about the miracle of the loaves and fishes, he went on to say that while he was in the novus ordo church, it was said over and over that the people shared their loaves and fishes, that was how everyone got fed.  The miracle was dropped and it was only through the sharing that this occurred.  

He brought up how the people today look to the world and man for happiness and a sort of  god, and how little thoughts are given to God, even in the novus ordo church.  He also said that most people in the pews at the novus ordo no longer believed in the true presence of Jesus Christ contained within the Blessed Sacrament.    The sad part is, they are probably right about this fact, and they might be only receiving bread.    

Really, the Catholic church can't be flawed!

Quote from: LaramieHirsch

, I believe the NO is valid, though severely severely flawed.  .  

What does this mean?

sheep

...Well, it is my undestanding that when the priest in a N.O. Mass consecrates the bread and wine, it becomes the literal Body and Blood of Christ.

However, this N.O. Mass is full of crumby changes that occurred during the meeting of Vatican II.  The Latin language of the Church is gone, and the Mass is spoken in the less-than great local language.  Everyone faces the altar, like it's some sort of community table where we share a meal.  Things like that.

And it is my further understanding that this newest form of the Mass has lent way for practices that should have never been, such as altar girls, the holding of hands during the Lord's Prayer, the hand-shaking "peace-be-with-you" session, Communion in the hand, women servers--things like that.

Quote from: LaramieHirsch

Quote from: the smart sheep

Quote from: LaramieHirsch

, I believe the NO is valid, though severely severely flawed.  .  

What does this mean?

sheep

...Well, it is my undestanding that when the priest in a N.O. Mass consecrates the bread and wine, it becomes the literal Body and Blood of Christ.

It is my understanding that the words to the consecration has been changed plus other things, invalidating Holy Eucharist.

Some information I found to be helpful. Plus a good read is ABL "A Letter To Confused Catholics"

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/

sheep

 

Thanks for the link.  I'll give it a read after work!

To me...

The Novus Ordo is an occasion of sin.

My thoughts are not uplifted to God. They're thinking about obvious worship of man replacing God.

Sermons about worldly things and feel-goodism, disturb me, and show a complete lack of care for the souls Jesus put these priests in charge of to lead them to heaven.

I am appalled when people are talking and socializing in church, painting their nails, whispering (or even talking out loud!), cell phones ringing, and other forms of total irreverence in the Novus Ordo churches.

I am disgusted when I see the complete lack of respect for Our Lord by people "coming as they are," dressed like they just came back from the beach, or just jumped out of bed, in the presence of God.

My spirit is not uplifted with hootenanny songs. I am repulsed by the lack of respect that is so due to God through sacred music rather than secularized music that is so prominent in the Novus Ordo.

The pagan board that they have in the Novus Ordo churches, and the priest with his back to God, makes me physically ill. The tabernacle off to one side of the Church and the priest as the center instead of the Divine Presence of Our Lord makes me recoil.

Women putting their filthy hands, wearing pants, and physically assaulting Jesus makes me want to vomit.

In short, when I exit a Novus Ordo, angry thoughts permeate my head rather than sanctifying thoughts.

Is THIS REALLY fulfilling our Sunday obligation? I ARGUE NOT!

No, sir. The Novus Ordo is a "rite" superimposed upon the true rite of the Catholic Church. It is a usurper taking the rightful place of the most beautiful thing this side of heaven.

What happens when I go to MASS?

Well, when I go to Mass, my spirit is uplifted. The presence of God is obvious by the fact that the tabernacle IS the center of the Church. Jesus Divine Presence is absolutely self evident. The atmosphere when I go to Mass is one of serene silence. People are dressed modestly and respectfully for the honor and glory of God. The sermons are pertinent, and help me advance in virtue and combat the devil more effectively when the words are taken to heart. The sacred music uplifts the soul to God, bringing peace, attention and FOCUS to Him. The Altar is not approached by anyone but altar boys and the priest, sans slovenly dressed women who don't even belong near it. Women are not even allowed to approach the altar much less even TOUCH Our Lord. The priest's fingers are consecrated, and only HE is permitted to lay his hands on Him.

If I can't make it to Mass, would I subject myself to a "rite" that absolutely OFFENDS God and brings angry thoughts to my mind, not to mention the fact that I don't know what the person next to me thinks about necessary Dogmas and Doctrines perennially taught by the Catholic Church, or would I be better off staying at home if I couldn't get to a REAL Mass, and reading through the prayers in my missal, and send my Guardian Angel to Mass instead?

If you ponder these things truly, you will come to the correct conclusion just as almost everyone on this board already has:

The Novus Ordo is a different religion, because it's certainly NOT the Catholic way in which to worship God truly and rightfully.