Why buy an outdated Breviary when the Pope has approved the current one that is infallibly protected? :confused1:
Where do you want me to start my friend? I won't waste my time trying to convince you.
God bless and Mary keep my friend,
Keep up the good fight!
John
Start by obeying the Church's laws and accepting that liturgical laws can be changed and are binding. When Pope Pius XII bound the Church to the new law all were bound and remain bound.
If you want to start a whole new debate again we can. You ended it and could not get past point one. Pius XII himself knows the truth of it now and would agree with all the SV clergy minus CMRI on the issue. If you want to set the Church strait start with them.
To recap. You were claiming that the real hierarchy is in the Novus Ordo structures. You thought you would win your point by saying I can't prove they are heretics. I said I do not have to prove they are heretics but merely have to take them at their word, they are members of a false sect. I say the hierarchy is right where it appears to be and the only place it can be with the traditional Catholic Bishops. You are stuck on disciplinary laws that are not applicable.
You have not convinced me to the contrary. We are allowed to disagree on the point until a Pope sets us straight. I don't condemn those of your position. You should not worry about us who stay clear of the Bugnini tinged nonsense. There are bigger fights to worry about in the doctrinal realm.
Talk to Ahearn, Collins, McMahon the SSPV clergy all the independent SV clergy and not to few non-SV independent clergy, I'm just a little guy. I'm okay without your thoughts on this particular issue and to be perfectly clear I am not interested in any advice you have for me on the issue.